Clanmate had it yesterday, not in every game though. Looks like it's only in certain games where crossing the 2000 Mhz barrier causes the issue for him.

Well, this does actually make me feel a bit better for not being able to get my hands on one... As for the FE, yea, that part in the middle gets super, super hot. Say at Jay's 2 cent that he put a 120mm fan pushing air in on that area and temps went down a LOT. So I guess the AIBs with their triple fan designs will prove to be the more sensible choice for the long run. Either way, a lot of research and comparisons required before making a purchase. Given the shortage situation, it will give me time to do just that.

Done an AMD.

Is this the new GTX 480 generation?

TheDeeGee:

Is this the new GTX 480 generation?

Big, hot, compute heavy, crashes, overpriced...fermi 2.0. Remember amd at that time had revolutionary hd 5000 series and it was actually winning. Its time...

Astyanax:

Guess you got one of the good ones 😉 The blackscreen isn't a crash as opposed to AMD's. It's literally VRR/Freesync displays going out of range and can be mitigated by turning the feature off screen side.

Some of them were, my initial display with the 5700XT Pulse didn't even have free-sync or adaptive sync support. Over time and especially post the 20.2.1 drivers though much of this has been resolved but not everything. Perhaps NVIDIA could deploy a similar fix to what AMD did in a newer driver and tweak the algorithm a bit maybe make it a bit less aggressive or at worst do a driver hot fix release and just cap max boost speeds a bit lower temporarily while doing some tweaks to how the card scales with power and temperature and other limits and factors for what I guess NVIDIA Boost Version 4 handles this. Hmm maybe GFE on it's own and a higher power draw could mitigate the problem but if it's temperature related for VRM's or the VRAM it's just going to make it worse short of underclocking. Testing will have to confirm effectiveness and any possible mounting issues or cooling for components besides the GPU core too for some of these models I suppose. EDIT: Could be reading this quoted bit about AMD incorrectly. Well also that AMD could have defined "Black screen." a bit better besides half a dozen fixes for it without details on what they actually do for fixing them. (PCI 4.0 compatibility, display cabling both HDMI and DP, power delivery and PSU quality and power cabling especially if it's daisy chained plus hardware sensitivity in general and additional stuff I'm not very good at.) EDIT: And for AMD's little tweak the Navi10 cards are a bit more conservative in boosting now so with the target clock speeds so there's a bit more of a gap between Wattman and actual achieved clocks and users might need some extra power or lowering the GPU temps before it can boost up to full near 2100 Mhz again or sustaining these for a longer period of time. Depending on the card and the GPU binning, some require a bit more to go past 2.0 Ghz before getting close to 2050 - 2100 Mhz. (Earlier drivers like the 19.7's or the 19.8's were really quick to target max clocks in comparison.) Suppose that's the same here though, some Ampere cards might land around 1900 Mhz instead of 2.0 Ghz but that's still a good bit above the 1750 Mhz listed boost clock speed. 🙂 Well the driver code is pretty flexible, probably some interesting things NVIDIA could do to add or refine the boost algorithm in later updates here or other micro code or firmware enhancements perhaps. Depends on what the issue is I guess, getting a few sample cards and replicating the error shouldn't be impossible for a answer to that but it could take a little while. (Likely a priority issue for NVIDIA though to get this resolved quickly.)

Next up, The 3090

It's difficult to speculate where the actual problem lies at the moment with just a subset of none scientific results being reported in. Currently it seems to indicate multiple board designs being affected when they run at full whack. Perhaps it is a firmware / BIOS update as advised by nvidia that is required. As mentioned above, both AMD and nVidia have issues with new releases, it's not a surprise as using multiple AIB's is quite complex to cover all the permutations. This is why graphics cards have more issues than consoles on launch, because consoles are tightly controlled on the permutations and allows for better testing / debugging. nVidia has not helped here though. Their board design, the new funky one for the cooling on the FE, is completely different to a traditional 2 or 3 fan design the AIB partners now have been doing for years. In the past nvidia even restricted what the board partners could do board wise. Not here. Also nvidia seems to have limited drivers to the AIBs until the last moment etc. I think they new they had a killer product and wanted a shock and awe for release unlike the drip of results. It worked, they got the awe factor. Now users are getting the shock factor ! 😀 I'm not going to be too critical though. It was nice to really be impressed by the generation gap this time and the cost for that ... like the good old days. Having said that, the people who rushed to buy the new shiny thing have to know that what test pilots might have to put up with as they glow in the fact they are one of the first to have it ... I'd wait for prices to settle and bugs to iron out, reading the reviews and judging the results of the performance and build quality to make an informed decision that is obviously the best 😉 I can then do this to everyone [youtube=eH56UOjDQ4A]

hamltnblue:

Next up, The 3090

Well the reviews for that and the initial available shipments for this GPU will be later today but as for the issue itself with the extra hardware will the card even boost to the same levels as the 3080 though with said extra cores and what not does it need to before exhibiting similar issues? EDIT: Suppose it depends on if it's a heat issue, voltage or power draw problem above certain speeds just spiking for what the GPU demands to be stable at these clocks. Needs testing but could be worked around until a full solution has been worked out by just reducing the boost a bit if that's where it runs into stability problems. 🙂 (Temporary workaround but I guess that would need testing too for if it's enough.) Or bios updates perhaps as a alternative. Though I don't see why tweaking the algorithm and behavior through the driver software couldn't work and thus avoid needing more than a driver update.

In days gone by, things were built with plenty of spare safe running capacity. Nvidia appears to have sacrificed some of that capacity for performance gains. Hence the very low OC potential on recent cards. Just as when you OC to the limit you start getting random crashes, maybe these cards are already there.

ThermaL1102:

prices for the cheapest rtx 3080 in Europe = 1012 dollar / 850 euro nvidia founders edition 840 dollar / 720 euro even these 3080's aren't gonna sell That good i think , at least not in Europe i'm good with my 2080ti oc , that's oc'd to 2100 for now that's way too much , they're taking the piss again , nvidia , with these prices rtx 3090 ... 2000 euro / 2300 dollar just laughable !!

One can still find 3080s for 750€ in Sweden at least (not in stock of course). It's pretty much confirmed that nVidia is giving discounts to wholesalers or stores in the beginning but that the discount will disappear in a few weeks.

hamltnblue:

Next up, The 3090

The 3090 is basically a "halo" product with a limited supply. So not such a big impact if there are issues, which I am inclined to think there will not be.

I was eager to get one. Not anymore. Doubt AMD will have anything interesting , so i guess i will wait for the refresh of this card.

yikes staying on my 2070s and waiting for Big Navi is looking better and better

I have a Gainward GS RTX 3080 and so far so good. But Hitman 2 is crashing all the time and interestingly Escape From Tarkov as well. All other games are working with 0 problems. Escape From Tarkov has restarted my PC once with the audio driver fault so it could be something with the Windows 2004 update or/and drivers from Nvidia. GPU clocks never go higher than 1985 so it seems this is a problem with the driver itself and not a HW issue. There are games that are far more demanding than those two and I have tested (tested over 50 games and 0 problems) for several days and nothing happened. As soon as I launch Escape From Tarkov or Hitman 2 crashes occur.

loracle:

i think that underclocking is not a good idea

And this is based on your experience or? I have Asus Dual RX580 4Gb and the card has bad coil whine. By removing the factory OC and underclock a bit as also undervolt I have the card running cool, silent and with minimal performance loss. Running her at 1330Mhz (AMD ref is 1340, factory OC is 1360) and 1025mV (from factory 1150mV). You do have a point with OC, pushing components to the limits might sound fun, but also pushes the life expectancy to oblivion. 10 years ago would be ok, hardware was made to last a decade. Now things are just not made to last.

This will probably be the time amd takes the lead in gpu clocks. rumors are for the big navi to have ps5 clocks speeds.

Turanis:

Could you,please,put a picture of HWInfo (GPU&VRM) after you play Control or other game(after 1 hour) who push the limits of the card,to see max/peak voltage and ampers, on G3D Rtx 3080 owners Thread.Thank you. Could be anything,but many users have some older Psu who dont have 2 separate cables for this 2x8 12V power and cannot sustain this new power hungry video card.Underclock is a good solution,but for how long?

I'll try to remember that.

Tough luck of all 3080 owners...

Silva:

And this is based on your experience or? I have Asus Dual RX580 4Gb and the card has bad coil whine. By removing the factory OC and underclock a bit as also undervolt I have the card running cool, silent and with minimal performance loss. Running her at 1330Mhz (AMD ref is 1340, factory OC is 1360) and 1025mV (from factory 1150mV). You do have a point with OC, pushing components to the limits might sound fun, but also pushes the life expectancy to oblivion. 10 years ago would be ok, hardware was made to last a decade. Now things are just not made to last.

If the coil whinning started under the warranty, you should have sent it back.

My Gigabyte GTX1070 started whining 2 or so years after I bought it. Strangely it only happened in one specific game too. So far my Gigabyte 2070S hasn't made any noises in that game.