If ALL cards are crashing, it looks like there won't be any 3000 series for the rest of the year. Seems to be a more serious issue, if 6 MLCCs also crash.

k0vasz:

so... people will have to do a BIOS update to downgrade clock frequencies? and maybe a few months later, you can get a v2.0 version of the cards with better hardware, and you have to watch out whether you're buying the old crappy or the revised version?

Imagine eBay suddenly flooded with like-new 3080 cards. This is just gonna snowball somewhere...

Rut Row 🙄

k0vasz:

so... people will have to do a BIOS update to downgrade clock frequencies? and maybe a few months later, you can get a v2.0 version of the cards with better hardware, and you have to watch out whether you're buying the old crappy or the revised version? sounds fun

Yeah, that's gonna suck.

Crossing my fingers that this is just a driver issue. My card is arraving monday/thuesday :O

k0vasz:

so... people will have to do a BIOS update to downgrade clock frequencies? and maybe a few months later, you can get a v2.0 version of the cards with better hardware, and you have to watch out whether you're buying the old crappy or the revised version? sounds fun

Looks like EVGA pulled the plug and stopped the sales of their cards and working on rev2. They have allready confirmed that there are some issues with the rev1 and seening threads on reddit that EVGA 3080 are showing up as "Discontinued" on some stores.

wow for price of the fracker you would think they tested things before releasing it

tsunami231:

wow for price of the fracker you would think they tested things before releasing it

According to EVGA. There were limited time to test since they had to start production before they even got drivers to test the cards :O

Steppzor:

According to EVGA. There were limited time to test since they had to start production before they even got drivers to test the cards :O

costly excuse now they gona have to replace said card for said people that got them at cost to them self cause they didnt want to test nvidia didnt force them start production without testing before mass production is done full testing should be done.

Sometimes business secrecy is a double-edged sword. They prevented performance leaks at the cost of thorough testing.

Dragam1337:

You usually get what you pay for... hence why i ordered the 3090 strix oc 🙂

DominikReber:

Ok I had a MSI RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio and had several CTD during MSFS2020. Buuuuut I suspected MSFS2020 to be the problem as other (nom RTX 30XX) users are experiencing CTD also. Else I played BF5 and got 2x a CTD while playing 10h.

CPC_RedDawn:

Judging from pictures on overclockers BOTH the STRIX OC and the TUF OC both use 6 cheap POSCAP array instead of 4pos+2mlcc like FE cards.



Only card I have seen so far that doesn't cheap out is the MSI Gaming X Trio which seems to be using the same 4pos+2mlcc setup as the FE models.

All Asus model are actually using 6 higher tier MLCC, all the shots and sometimes Early youtubers had pre-production cards. ASUS GeForce TUF RTX 3080 O10G GAMING [SPOILER] https://i.imgur.com/YWCxDU0.png [/SPOILER] ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 ROG STRIX [SPOILER] https://i.imgur.com/9L1SuNL.png [/SPOILER] ASUS and EVGA also started updating their product pictures accordingly: https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/TUF-RTX3080-O10G-GAMING/gallery/ https://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-STRIX-RTX3080-10G-GAMING/gallery/

people should get their money back as it is defective product.

As with any electronic component, all manufacturers strive to reduce costs on the bill of materials while keeping the product functional. Without going into much of a deep dive, IMO this substitution of a POSCAP was probably driven by reducing the BOM and number of components dropped in by pick and place machines as a cost and time-saving measure. I'm willing to bet that it's not JUST these POSCAPs, but a combination of components in the circuit that's introducing runtime operational problems. Just because on the surface a part of a circuit is generally described as filtering or bandpass doesn't mean that it also has a secondary function, like a tank. I'm willing to bet this was a small oversight/handwave by an engineer that developed into a larger issue. I suppose the inventories being choked probably worked in everyone's favor after all.

The financial hit to retailers when a mass return surge on these cards hits is going to cause them to rethink carrying nvidia based graphics cards in the future. Nvidia and AIB partners are not going to reimburse retailers for the full purchase cost of the RMAed cards. This is going to result in a loss of profits for the retailers. AMD is probably ROFLing right now over this absolutely pointless issue that should have never happened. Nvidia and the AIBs deserve what they get from this travesty. Not letting the cards get real world testing before release; it is quite laughable. It will be better if Nvidia knew about this and let the cards get released anyway. I will be returning my ASUS TUF card to Microcenter for a refund as I will not accept a card that does not function as intended. I have had CTD issues with a wide range of games at stock clocks. Downclocking a card from factory clocks is not a fix. I will wait to see what AMD has before I upgrade. From my expierence AMD cards are not as fast but are FAR more stable from my experience. If I have to work on a old desktop I always throw in a Ati/AMD card for testing because they always work; putting in a old nvidia card is always a crapshoot. Who ever puts these first gen 3080s up on ebay is going to get no takers or they will sell for cents on the dollar because no one is going to want to take a chance on them being stable. Nvidia fumbles again. I am not surprised.

Thats a giant eff up. Makes me wonder... why is nVidia in such a rush? There has to be a reason behind this strange release. Its either the consoles, or they have some info about AMD.

Thanks for the clear article @Hilbert Hagedoorn , Nvidia having a final say in board design, they had it coming. Really wondering why they let this happen, it's bad publicity.

HybOj:

Thats a giant eff up. Makes me wonder... why is nVidia in such a rush? There has to be a reason behind this strange release. Its either the consoles, or they have some info about AMD.

Financial quarter perhaps, market lead isn't going to change just like that from AMD potentially having something competitive against the high-end this time (Even if it's a shorter time frame too.) plus the consumers wouldn't know the details on what the GPU has or doesn't have and wouldn't immediately switch over even if it does end up being similar in performance finally on the workstation side CUDA means it's NVIDIA that gets used. EDIT: Fiscal I think is how it's called actually. https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-second-quarter-fiscal-2021 So September-October-November for Q3 then? Launch of Ampere as a strong start perhaps, I can only speculate really wouldn't have the insight into this sort of stuff and financial results or expectations or the status and all that. EDIT: Or..the Q2 results right there and some of what's written from that.

“Our new Ampere GPU architecture is sprinting out of the blocks, with the world’s top cloud service providers and server makers moving quickly to offer NVIDIA accelerated computing. .... ....

I_Eat_You_Alive:

From my expierence AMD cards are not as fast but are FAR more stable from my experience. If I have to work on a old desktop I always throw in a Ati/AMD card for testing because they always work; putting in a old nvidia card is always a crapshoot.

Never had an issue with stability with Nvidia cards in last 15 years. In fact, thats no.1 criteria that keeps me sticking to them.

Steppzor:

Looks like EVGA pulled the plug and stopped the sales of their cards and working on rev2. They have allready confirmed that there are some issues with the rev1 and seening threads on reddit that EVGA 3080 are showing up as "Discontinued" on some stores.

Where did you see that? From what eVGA has officially stated, they detected it early, samples sent to reviews had the old setup where as all production to consumers were with the new setup.

This seems like a pretty colossal hardware screw up. I'd say this eclipses the GTX970 3.5GB+0.5 vram snafu. At least those cards worked perfectly fine, stock or overclocked.