so new were gona have 2 varients of 3060ti and 3070ti ? or are they gona stop producing the lower end models? there naming of cards is getting convoluted imo the original 3060/3070ti and these new one have completely diffrent bandwidth probably diffrent performance too. I think bigger question is how much more nvidia is gona charge for this, i kind curious what new 3060ti performance will be it rumors are true both are gona have 608gbps bandwitdth

Interesting, (likely) more Nvidia damage control from the crypto crash and now end of ether mining. They had orders in place for the production of a lot more GA102 - probably destined for 3080/3090 (TI) models. 2022 happened, and now they're stuck with these GA102 but still have to push 4000 series as the halo cards. So the Nvidia solution is to hack them down into "new" 3070Ti variants to recoup some cost for these contracts to produce GA102. The @#$&'ed up part is that Nvidia will undoubtedly be etching off bigger chunks than ever from these GA102 to make the 3070Ti (as opposed to using GA104). They could have more easily used these GPUs to create new 3080s (or higher models) and further dropped price to position those below the new (4000) cards... but that gets too close to infringing on the lesser 4080's territory. Better to create a junky new version of the GA102 (at additional cost and effort) vs risking lost 4080 sales or giving consumers too good of a deal. Blech.