So many Nvidia leaks and news the day before AMD product reveal 😱

400 USD, lol, no. This has gone for too long, I know AMD will release high end first and hope they don't get too greedy...

So $500+ for the 3070? So many rumors.

400 for the xx60 serie is the new norm, i do not want to happen. 350 for the 1650TI seemed too much for me also.

There will probably be 3060 non ti for 349$.

funny how everyone expects stuff to cost the same, forever. how about the price for entry in "top series" chip like the FX 81xx (180$), now im paying +310$ for a 3700.. do you guys also expect to pay the same for everything else? show me more than three common things of everyday life, that didnt increase its price in the past 10/20/30y? avg house in europe was 50K in late 70s and now its 250K, cars that were 50K are now 150K (911 turbo), food and many other things the same..

Undying:

There will probably be 3060 non ti for 349$.

Seems like a big line up: 3090, 3080, 3070, 3060Ti, 3060... Matbe a 3050 option in the future as well? IMO it's too many options. The lower we go, the harder it is to find the best bang for buck.

Silva:

400 USD, lol, no. This has gone for too long, I know AMD will release high end first and hope they don't get too greedy...

AMD raised the mainstream CPU prices by 50 dollars, so I wouldn't hold my breath. If they aim for lower prices to gain more customers, it's not lower by much, I think.

At those prices, I'll hold off for the supers.

@labidas lol, they arent. i now pay +400$ to get an 8C, when my 3700 was 329$.

fry178:

@labidas lol, they arent. i now pay +400$ to get an 8C, when my 3700 was 329$.

But when the 1060 launched, 299, now they want $400 for the same bracket card, naw F8CK Nvidia. Their price hikes are intel level greed. Doesnt help the fanboy buys their shit regardless. And you are also comparing an FX chip that was rather slow for its time. That really was a 4 core/8 thread chip vs an actually 8 core cpu. You are not very smart at all.

The 3060 Ti is a bargain compared to the 3070. $100 less for some pretty minimal losses.

400€ for a 3060Ti??? Is everyone insane? GPU prices are getting crazier with each release. What´s next, a 3050 for 300€?!

I blame ray-tracing for making video cards far too expensive we went from 250ish usd 1060ti (200mm2 die) to now 400usd 3060ti (392mm2 die) so double the die size even with a process shrink i would like to know how much of the die is wasted on ray tracing that cant be done acceptably (I only say wasted because in the majority of cases ray-tracing performance will not be enjoyable enough to use properly)

I had a blast with Control raytracing, like Fing hell it was amazing, DLSS works friend.:)

Kaarme:

AMD raised the mainstream CPU prices by 50 dollars, so I wouldn't hold my breath. If they aim for lower prices to gain more customers, it's not lower by much, I think.

If AMD releases a Ryzen 5 5600 at $220, as rumored, it will only be a $5 increase over the Ryzen 5 1600 which was around $215 at launch.

Undying:

There will probably be 3060 non ti for 349$.

Maybe a paper launch....but there won't be much, if any, availability unless NVidia can get their supply issues fixed....

fry178:

@labidas lol, they arent. i now pay +400$ to get an 8C, when my 3700 was 329$.

There's no 5700x to compare the the 3700x to. If AMD never releases a 3700/x, then sure you're right. But the 5000 series hasn't even been released yet and who knows what will happen in the future. Never has the entire lineup released at once. And it's clear he was talking about 1st gen to 4th, not 3rd to 4th, as you stated 1800x $499 2800x non-existent 3800X $399 5800X $449 Your 3700x comparisons (since there is no 3700) 1700X $399 2700X $329 3700X $329 5700X (Currently unannounced) Then there's the cheaper lineup to 1700 $329 2700 $299 3700 non-existent 5700 (Currently unannounced) And i'm not gonna put out the XT's as i believe those to be one-offs, but who knows. All of these CPUs have been 8-core 16 thread CPUs. Prices have changed pretty much every generation Sometimes generations don't release a sequel. We have no idea if AMD will release a 5700x to compete with your 3700x pricing. Point being: None of this is new, the pricing is right in line with pricing over the past 3 years, lets get off of our "artificially surprised" notion and move on, wait for reviews, and hope AMD will released a 5700/x as well, or even a 5800 non-x

@Agonist i compared the cheapest chip of the biggest series, meaning FX vs what is out right now, and even the 8/8 version (FX) was still cheaper, so yeah. and we 1. weren't talking about value, but price 2. value is not a feature, its only connected to how much money ppl have. e.g. the only ppl that will argue a +1M$ super sports car has bad value and cost of insurance/maintenance/gas/tires is too high, are the ones that dont have the means. or compare food prices of the stuff you bought last time, to what the same items cost 10y ago. did the stuff get better in the same amount the price went up?? @Aura89 i wanted tom compare price to recent cpu, and i wasnt looking at model number, but smallest chip with 8C, and even then, its ~300$ (1700) vs +400$, increase in price either way.

Aura89:

There's no 5700x to compare the the 3700x to. If AMD never releases a 3700/x, then sure you're right. But the 5000 series hasn't even been released yet and who knows what will happen in the future. Never has the entire lineup released at once. And it's clear he was talking about 1st gen to 4th, not 3rd to 4th, as you stated 1800x $499 2800x non-existant 3800X $399 5800X $449

if they straight up eliminate a tier and replace it with a more expensive one tha'ts all u have to compare with i would argue that its perfectly valid to compare the 5800x to the 3700x when there isn't a direct replacement its like the cheese way to raise prices and somewhat justify it.

fry178:

and even then, its ~300$ (1700) vs +400$, increase in price either way.

Depends on what's released in the future. I highly doubt AMD will only release 1 8-core CPU for the 5000 series. More then 2? Who knows. Time will tell. But to be honest it's a weird statement either way, given the fact you don't compare products against higher end products just because they are both 8 cores. a 5600x could best your 3700x for all you know and cost less. If you want to just compare cores get a 8350 on ebay for like $60 bucks and call it good or a Xeon E5-2658 8-Core for $18 on ebay.

icedman:

if they straight up eliminate a tier and replace it with a more expensive one tha'ts all u have to compare with i would argue that its perfectly valid to compare the 5800x to the 3700x when there isn't a direct replacement its like the cheese way to raise prices and somewhat justify it.

This is very invalid in multiple ways. At least at original release date. Never has AMD released all CPUs at the same time, we don't know what is coming. If AMD never releases a cheaper 8-core CPU then sure, the 5000 series for 8-core will sit at $449 for both lowest and highest end 8-core CPU, but given historical information, it's unlikely that AMD will only release one 8-core CPU. If this same logic could be applied everywhere, then AMD is releasing the most expensive lineup ever, due to having no products under the 3600x currently announced. Which means AMD from last generation went from their cheapest product 3100 at $99 to their cheapest product 5600x being $299 It doesn't work that way, only the future will show how many products are released and at what price points.