Am I the only one here who doesn't find this disappointing, underwhelming, funny, etc? Sure, it's severely overpriced and I currently have no interest in raytracing (I'm sure eventually I'll care), but the 2080 Ti is a distinctly very good for 4K gaming. Also, performance-per-watt is pretty appealing. Also, I think there's some optimization issues for the 2080. Sometimes it seems to be right behind the 2080 Ti while at other times it barely seems to be keeping up with the 1080. It still performs well no matter what, but clearly there needs to be some driver optimizations.

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Really? looks pretty good here. it was recorded at 80 mbit @ 3840x2160. Internet connection slow?

I'm pretty sure Youtube re-encodes the file to its own Video Codec, VP9 iirc, and they will probably drop the bitrate down from 80Mbits. You could set up a Torrent (a legal one) with the original video you made ? At least then you would be sure that the people are seeing the real thing 😉 I have trouble watching at 480p with my great 1.5Mbps line..................

So after reading the review i have a few considerations about the cards: - the 2080Ti is a beast, as expected, but the 30% average performance increase is simply to small to justify the insane price increase! - the 2080 is a joke, a bad one. My 1080Ti is still laughing at it... - this release is an huge mess for Nvidia something that i wasn´t expecting. You can´t go telling the world that Ray-tracing is the holy grail of gaming and that we need to buy a RTX card to enter this amazing world right now and then when the reviews are up and the card is on sale there´s not a single game with Ray-tracing!!! What was Nvidia thinking??? This is so stupid!!! Great review as always Hilbert!!! And kudos for all the effort, writing all this stuff must a ton of work, you must be the superman of hardware reviewers...

Oh man I chuckled so much when I saw those firestrike scores, literally made my day. Everyone parting at next station off the hype train 😀

jwb1:

Did you note any coil whine with the cards?

Little to none on pretty much all of them. I'll add some comments on that in the articles, right now I need food and beer, not necessarily in that order though!

First Nvidia release in 15 years that I will skip. The 2080 is an... Utter. Total. Fail. for its price vs last gen (1080ti) at similar price point. Now I can understand why Nvidia had to include the 2080ti with the 2080 launch (instead of several months later). Without the Ti in this launch, the RTX series would have been a total PR and marketing disaster, as they would have no card that could beat last gens 1080ti! Oh well, lets see what late 2019/2020 brings to the table (incl next gen consoles).

Underwhelming tbh. Prices are stupid. Best for money is 1080 ti really. Lets see after 3000 series and navi again.

Reviews appreciated. RTX 2080 vanilla pre-order canceled. 1080 Ti staying with me until next series or AMD's answer. 2080 vanilla seems like a decent upgrade over 1080 vanilla, not 1080 Ti. Heck, the TI was winning in 4k in some benches, I assume that gap will close and even change to 20xx side with driver maturity (and rigging on old hardware as always). The 2080 Ti is a beast. Not worth the price for me. I don't give a flying **** about Ray Tracing until I can do it at resolutions that are standard in 2018, not 2008. And again, current consoles are sticking around for another year, this series isn't necessary for ports. The 10xx series has more than enough power for that.

The technology probably cool.. but it's not here yet. The performance is too little for too much money. Overall disappointing for me. I said earlier in the year that Nvidia would be stupid not waiting for 7nm and if they did launch on 12nm it wouldn't be worth buying. I stick by that statement. Not impressed with this.

I believe there has always been a downward trend in cost per frame over the years... the RTX series bucks the trend. https://abload.de/img/2018-09-1904far.jpg

I see a few issues here, yes the performance is good, but... 1) Too expensive 2) The Ti is LOUD!

Ofcourse the card is lovely, don't think anyone can deny that... but the price to performance is all over the place, the GTX2080 runs mostly similar to a 1080ti for the same price, even though it should be cheaper And the 2080ti, why that cost even exists, the performance gain was as low as a 25% jump, for something that costs around £400+ retail, is absurd. My only hope is AMD comes out with something to smack nvidia around for this nonsense

HWgeek:

LOL, only dumb gamer will buy 2080 over 1080TI, same performance for higher price (not to mention 2nd hand 1080Ti Ex miner flood). Until RTX and other tech will be implemented you gonna see 7nm GPU's out- lol.

Even brand new just checked there is around £100 dfference between 1080ti and 2080, This has got to be one of the worst launches i've ever seen. and going off some reviews OC the 1080ti performs the same and sometimes even better

RTX series could still be a win... all Nvidia has to do is knock off $100-150 off the MSRP.

alanm:

RTX series could still be a win... all Nvidia has to do is knock off $100-150 off the MSRP.

300-450 $ *

So I downloaded all 4 videos between TAA and DLSS and color me impressed. I used Jdownloader, copy and pasted the video links, and selected the 4K VP9 videos, even though I watch it on 1080p screen, it would be all relative. DLSS AA looks practically as good as my old 6950 unlocked at CFX 16xRGSSAA. Should be since Nvidia sampled at 64xAA -- er I mean "trained" their AI to inference... 😛 Great job again Hilbert and agree DLSS is something to consider. Too bad no one can use it yet and there does appear to be more stuttering with DLSS ON. But I think it would better for both current Nvidia and AMD GPU users to just buy a second used GPU and enable 16x or 32xAA modes (SLI or CFX AA). It does work in games that don't even support SLI or CFX yet you get way better AA with a second GPU and still cheaper than the 2080Ti. I would take twice the ROPs, twice the power and heat, just to (mostly) guarantee great AA anyday. No RT features but heck no game support yet anyways... That TAA just looks like a blurry mess to me. Maybe its the DOF but TAA does not look good quality wise compared to RGSSAA, to me personally. For future videos, can we all agree to turn OFF DOF so we can see the crisp background and foreground quality? PS: For those guys throwing out their 1080Tis to go 2080Ti, let me know! 😛

vinicius.rodsilva:

Do you guys think that still worth buying a 1080 or 1080ti thinking about future games? 3-5 years I play in 1080p, but you know... future games will tend to be a lot heavier even in 1080p, maybe (probably) they will require the newest generation of cards.

1080 ti would be massive overkill for 1080p, but if you could get one cheap 2nd hand, then you'd be good to go for years 🙂

vinicius.rodsilva:

Do you guys think that still worth buying a 1080 or 1080ti thinking about future games? 3-5 years I play in 1080p, but you know... future games will tend to be a lot heavier even in 1080p, maybe (probably) they will require the newest generation of cards.

A gtx1080 would be a good upgrade for you if its around the $450 mark. 1080ti's may hold in price ($650-700) and imo would be overkill for 1080p.

vinicius.rodsilva:

Do you guys think that still worth buying a 1080 or 1080ti thinking about future games? 3-5 years I play in 1080p, but you know... future games will tend to be a lot heavier even in 1080p, maybe (probably) they will require the newest generation of cards.

I suggest you buy a new GPU when a new game comes out where you need the power and you invest a lot time into. That is mostly the best time if you want stretch your dollars. You're not going to notice 50 FPs more from 120+ for old game as much as 30 to 60 FPS on a newer game.

vinicius.rodsilva:

It is an overkill for current games... But will it be an overkill 5 years from now?

And 2080 will ? It actually has less RAM than 1080 Ti, while having same performance and higher price.