wavetrex:

@nz3777 Ray tracing in layman terms is like using a laser pointer to draw something on a wall while holding a camera shutter open until you're done drawing (aka, moving the laser ray all over the place) Any objects in the path of the light will create shadows, any reflective ones will bump the ray in another direction, any translucent one will make it refract through it and also change direction. But instead of a laser, this is done via mathematics, for EVERY PIXEL on the screen, and realtime raytracing means it has to be done 30-60 or more times every second. This is extremely difficult to achieve, because the mathematics involved are very complex.

fry178:

According to some post we should stop R&D cause games are not gonna use features coming with each new gen. Guess what, no new stuff hardware wise, means no developers will introduce it into games... And so far, most ppl are looking to improve performance , not new features. So not buying a new product just because you cant fully use it? Ok...

tunejunky:

mai only because i've seen them in use at server farms

schmidtbag:

Interesting - seems like the 2000 series is definitely more than just a refresh. The 2080Ti is more impressive than I was expecting.

Luc:

The final price will depend on chips sizes... if they don't cut them, they will be expensive, at least based on Quadro price list.

Only Intruder:

I agree somewhat, it'll be a few generations until we see what these new features will bring us and how well they'll be implemented. The problem I see with the ray-tracing processing being leveraged (I would argue that it's simplified ray tracing, low pass with AI processing on top) is that it's exclusive to nVidia through their gameworks platform and if the rumours are true, there will be further segmentation with nVidia hardware as well (GTX vs RTX) so only the very top end cards will see this capability. The problem this brings, as we've seen with anything with Gameworks integration is, we see only few games with the enhanced graphics and fairly often, particularly if games are ported from consoles (which really shouldn't be difficult to port anymore given the current gen consoles are x86) often with crippling results (from both of the main hardware manufactures and again, only high end NV cards only just being able to view the results). Lets also be honest here, the majority of games available today are made for the consoles, the only difference is PC gaming allows for various configurations of quality (for the better usually of course) but what will be the point of this new technology if it's going to be inaccessible to the majority? Perhaps I'm being cynical but I can't help but fear we're going to see more of the same - PhysX and Gameworks being locked away and once again with the ray tracing package being a part of gameworks, stifling the innovation that nVidia are actually providing and it and makes me think of this quote "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" - in this case the left hand of nVidia is innovation, making great hardware and technology but the right hand is the greed and monopoly, keeping it locked away, not giving the innovation what it deserves. So what do I mean by all this? Well while I can appreciate that yes, people will be expected to pay high prices for the new features, it's understandable, the problem is, we still wont see the innovations for many many many years, not because of the prices themselves but because of the exclusivity of the features and it's resultant platform availability and ecosystems and the rather small marketshare in the grand scheme of computer gaming - unless nVidia have a hand during game development, we're just not going to see the ray-tracing unless the next gen consoles also leverage this hardware. Tl;dr I just really really really hope nVidia's innovation in ray-tracing wont follow the same history of PhysX.

alanm:

So by the time a few games use it, we could be on the heels of Turings successor which will improve upon it further. So ray tracing on Turing may not be anything for gamers to be exited about.