Undying:

People are not gonna buy this card for the tracing becouse its not gonna be capable unless you like low standards. They are not gonna buy it for a raw power becouse card does not have it. Where do you see success in that? For a 350$ you can buy a used 1080 that smokes this card.

Absolutely--I also wonder if this product will be crippled as far as SLI goes, too, like the 1060--AMD owns that market segment, hands down (580/590). IMO, for this product line, the so-called "Tensor" cores just massively slow down all of the RTX products when invoked, and as such only really inexperienced people are going to fall for that little gimmick. It definitely is *not worth it*(TM) but some people just cannot resist the allure of false advertising, sadly enough... But perhaps nVidia will enable SLI on this product--which sort of helps...some, I suppose. Kudos to AMD for not jumping on the fake real-time ray-tracing bandwagon! I wish I could get gaming n00bs to understand that "They can't lie about that--someone would do something about it," is not a true statement at all, unfortunately. "They" can and they will--and they do--fib blatantly about stuff all the time. This is just more overt than the usual. But I suppose that as long as nVidia can get people to pay ridiculous prices for features that aren't worth the time of day when it comes to normal 3d rasterization which *does* take place in real time, they'll keep doing it. "A sucker a day keeps the poorhouse away," I suppose. IMO, These "Tensor" cores are actually so poor at real ray tracing that the number of professional scene and special-effects people using an RTX GPU for *raytracing* of any kind will be 0. When invoked, the performance penalty is so major that no one playing 3d games will want to use the Tensor cores, either--especially when they see there's no effect that the Tensors can do that normal rasterization cannot equal--and a multiple of times faster, too! nVidia couldn't even ship a real-time *demo* with these products--they had to use other, far more expensive products to produce a videoclip in 2d that plays back @ 60 fps! No telling how long it took nVidia to produce the ray-tracing shown in that videoclip--nVidia isn't saying. But you can absolutely take it to the bank that it was produced in nowhere near "real-time"!...;) I still scratch my head wondering why that isn't more obvious to some people. How can people not know the huge difference between 3d-GPU generated scenes and compiled 2d videoclips?

-Tj-:

Almost, i didnt say it does , not a single time.. go read again.. i said just 1070ti.

Why are you deliberately missing my point?

yasamoka:

Why are you deliberately missing my point?

Because there is none? 1080gtx is still clearly going to be faster then this 2060rtx.

warlord:

In summer of 2016 I took my r9 390X gpu for 333$. It was a good deal back then that I didn't care for waiting either gtx 1060 or rx 480. If rtx 2060 can make me happy for about ~20% more, like 399$, I imagine it is also a steal because rtx 2060 will be ~60% faster. I would gladly pay 20% more for +60% performance.

Consider you can buy now RX580/590 for 220/280$, both being faster than 390X. No wonder nvidia is pushing all these 2060's 3/4/6gb versions to be able to compete.

Yeah, that 350 USD is too high for what is supposed to be mainstream card. Especially in Europe, USD will be taken as equal for euros so that's already 11% more, then you slap 21% tax on it and it will be at least 450€. That's considering high availability and therefore small margins for the retailers. Aib cards will be like 500€, that's absurd for mainstream card. You can get a console with several games for that money and it will last you for years.

Obviously these are are rumors at this point but assuming that 350$ is going to be the price bandied about that's obviously going to be for the very lowest-end SKU. The equivalent of the 3GB 1060 if you will, or the elusive 500$ 2070/1000$ 2080Ti. That's just how marketing works unfortunately. I honestly don't get what the point of pushing the price boundaries within each performance bracket is, at these price points the number of people randomly buying things without doing proper research is going to be quite low so it's not like there will be any "accidental" sales.

If it's $350, it's high but almost kind of fair. I recently paid about $350 for my 1070ti and they're really close performance wise. Still, the 1070ti is old tech and shouldn't have cost $350...