GeForce RTX 2060 is coming (sooner than expected)
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Corrupt^
Yawn...
Pretty much the response of all us 1080/1080Ti owners out there who are sensible in how they spend their budget.
Other than Ray Tracing, this whole 20XX Series feels like an over expensive refresh when you look at performance.
fry178
@Petr V
last time i checked, Nv doesnt guarantee any perf level on RTX.
when did they state you could play all games with fully enabled RTX (perf/features)??
how many times was a certain amd gpu/gen the first to implement a (market wide impacting) feature, and it had no negative impact on fps?
@GamerNerves
outside that you work for amd/gpu div, i doubt you have any information about navi we dont have,
so stating that one is better than the other or even compared to 1060, when neither card is on the market or even benched? ok.
and just because you prefer freesync/cheaper/value, doesnt mean EVERYONE does.
i prefer to not hear anything from the card (fans running) when idle/low load, while sitting 2ft away from my case,
as well as having the lowest temps under load.
its fine if that means i have to spend a bit more, as i buy the best perf i can get, for the amount of money im willing to spend, not what model of cpu/gpu it is.
tensai28
2060 would benifit from dlss more than Ray tracing obviously.
tensai28
That's something we'll just have to wait and see. Could be more in the future. Right now as I've stated many times on here, the 2080ti and the rtx titan are the only rtx cards that make sense. At least until we have more games that include rtx features like dlss. These two cards are the only cards that offer better performance over the previous generation of pascal cards (outperforms the 1080ti) making them the only ones that make sense at the moment. Things could very much change in the future depending on how well rtx get's adapted.
Undying
399$ expected price? They got to be kidding. https://www.pcgamesn.com/rtx-2060-launch-price-gtx-1060-cost
Nvidia is moving X060 series from mainstream. It wont be long till last year 1060 owners will have to buy 2050 becouse they cant afford "mainstream" card anymore.
FordLynx07
RTX features should atleast perform on this card at 1080p 60fps or else... its going to be a waste of money...
Kaarme
If I was working for a game studio, DLSS carried no extra cost (that is, Nvidia handled its thing for free), there wouldn't be a queue of months to get the process through Nvidia, and the game studio itself needed to do nothing but insert a switch in the settings, throw some dll (or whatever) in the installation folder, and verify it all works, I don't see why not. However, if Nvidia charges extra, then nah. But then again, I don't work for a game studio.
Denial
Nvidia doesn't charge for it but there is almost certainly overhead in the testing/implementation from the development side. I would imagine there is some back and forth contact between the dev team and nvidia as they sort all the little issues out.
That being said there is also probably a nice little sales boost from advertising the feature - I see people reference games that are getting it often even if they aren't interested in the game itself.
vbetts
Moderator
I see it now! Yup I did, sorry buddy! 🙂
Venix
at 399 they can keep it ....
Venix
you are really trying to start a flame war don't you ? At the very least your post never fail to amuse keep up the good work !
i do not remember you ever bashing nvidia feel free to provide me with links of your post that you do if i am mistaken
vbetts
Moderator
Yeah, let's not do that.
Hey I'm big enough to admit when I'm wrong! 😀
moo100times
Nvidia was forced to up the prices? No. Nvidia upped the prices because they can, because dominant market position. Very different from having to raise the prices to make profit - they make substantial profit regardless of how it compares as a proportion of the previous year.
They actually dug their own hole by under-reporting the share of the profits last year which came from the sale of cards for mining, and they are probably trying to save face by basically making as much cash as possible so next quarter figures do not cause a further tank in their share price.
If they had just said "yes, mining helped us too, next year might not be as good" and then sold new cards for comparable prices whilst still making a tidy profit, they would saturate the market before AMD have a chance to bring new hardware out. As they say, pride comes before a fall.
fry178
@Petr V
then i guess you will also whine about all companies selling anything above "basic" as milking customers?
like all those companies that sell cars costing more than 80000, as they still only take you from A to B like any 20K car will do
it takes 2 to milk, and last time i checked no one holds a gun to a customers head forcing them to buy ANYTHING.
fry178
what i wanted to say is that that car will still drive the same road and will have the same traffic, ergo will not get you to your destination 2-3 times faster (when staying at speed limit)
than a car that costs less.
a smaller/less powerful gpu will still let you play the game..
anything outside food/shelter/heat and cloth, maybe basic tv/internet access is NEED.
anything else is WANT, incl any computer hardware above a basic tablet/laptop (to access internet), and i try to get the best for whatever my budget (for htat item) is.
not saying the price (vs perf ratio) is fine by me, but there will always be stuff that "i" cant buy,
i just wont blame the manufacturer for milking, just because i dont have the cash to get a 2080ti or titan.
or lets say it the other way: i doubt ANYONE would call it milking,
if they would make +1M income a year and wouldnt give a crap about (spending) money.
Robbo9999
Bloody hell Fry, you like these car analogies (from other threads too I remember) - just buy a Lamborghini already, get it out your system! ;-)
tsunami231
I am ready to see the GTFO price they want has the xx60 series base price finally hit 400$+
fry178
@Robbo9999
i use cars most of the time, as not every user understands pc stuff like we do and its easier to get them to see the difference.
my father owned a few, guess that got me hooked
@Petr V
and thats when we as a customer can make a decision with our wallet and NOT buy it.
last time i checked, companies make decisions on future products/price by looking at what sells..
