GeForce RTX 2060 is coming (sooner than expected)
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KissSh0t
If Nvidia are wanting to make their stock price go in the opposite direction they are going to have to price these things competitively instead of acting like Apple.
Devid
What an interesting time ahead!
GTX 1060 / 6GB GDDR5X, GTX 1070 8GB GDD5X and now this one...and they all pretty much the same time.
Releasing of RTX 2060 this early means AMD is cooking something delicious for us I believe 🙂
Stairmand
I bit strange, I seem to remember nVidia themselves saying lower spec RTX didn't make sense.
Robbo9999
As long as they don't reduce the ray tracing & tensor core capabilities any lower than the current power of the RTX 2070, then this is a good move. I think less powerful ray tracing capabilities than an RTX 2070 don't make sense, but if they just 'transport the RT cores over' to an RTX 2060 with less CUDA cores, then this is a viable product I think. I don't know if this is possible though, I don't know enough about how the RT cores are imbedded with the CUDA cores - for instance I don't know if their architecture means a certain proportion of RT cores have to be combined with a certain amount of CUDA cores - if that was the case then what I propose might mean a more fundamental redesign, which makes what I propose less likely to occur.
m4dn355
Good price and nvidia don't go hand in hand these days 😉
fantaskarsef
RTX... if they put the RT cores and AI cores on this one, they're offering us RTX 720p 30fps probably. Waste of diespace if so.
Astyanax
I never had any doubt it was an RTX part.
Yogi
I reckon they'll just rebrand the entire range, bar maybe the gt series, in order to "avoid confusion".
My bet is on the 2060 and lower not being fitted with RT cores.
The only scenario where it might make sense to have them would be for dlss
Kaarme
Then they need to be ready for refunds when people return RTX cards that turn out not to have RT. Unless the retail boxes have big, ugly disclaimers impossible not to notice.
Undying
If they dont actually give it a RT cores and call it RTX just for the hell of it that becomes confusing and misleading i would say intentionally.
Lets be honest, no RT cores (maybe) end up being slower than 1070 (first FF benchmark) less vram, more expensive = fail product.
Caesar
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2060.c3310
vbetts
Moderator
We had DX10 ready cards with no DX10 games in sight.
Bottom line is a new technology you buy into, you risk the adaption rate. Pretty simple with that. Regardless of having RT available or not, the RTX line is a strong line performance wise still and will here on be the on going arch that is optimized for Nvidia until they release something new.
schmidtbag
If this has the same amount of RT cores as the other GPUs, I actually think this might be the best model of the bunch. Right now, raytracing is bottlenecked by the RT cores, so a 2060 ought to give you roughly the same 1080p performance (with RTX on) as a 2080 while being much cheaper.
Rather than make a dozen confusing variations of the 2060 like they did with the 1060, I think it'd make sense if they made a slightly cut-down version of the 2060, without RT cores. Call that the GTX 2060 and that way there's no real confusion at all. I'm sure some of you going to be like "hurr durr they should make the GTX model the better one!" but if Nvidia wants RTX to sell, they need it to have leverage.
GamerNerves
I'm doubtful if 'the RTX' on this card enable anything else than the mentioned other features like the new anti aliasing method. Raytracing could be manageable with this card if more lighter indie games come up with it. Either way I doubt this is a meaningful upgrade from GTX 1060, because you get only some more performance and then slightly higher power consumption with unnecessary features. There is even the doubt if image quality suffers with some of the latest Nvidia tech like the DLSS or raytracing or heavy memory bandwith compression.
The case where these RTX cards are good are DX12 and Vulkan titles, but I'm quite sure you will get a better alternative for those titles when Navi arrives, so I recommend to wait if you are going to upgrade your graphic card from something like GTX 1070 or below and going to get a new monitor in the next year or so. Freesync is still cheaper than G-Sync and you want that combined with the new driver suite which AMD just released.
For me this is underwhelming information, but I understand that many who find raytracing very appealing might go with this card. I still honestly recommend to consider image quality and pure value performance ratio, where this card innevitably excels worse than the previous GTX 1060.
Denial
There are other value-add features of Turing aside from raytracing. If the card comes equipped with tensors you get NGX support/Ansel DL stuff. You get variable rate shading and mesh shaders both of which are being adopted into the DX/Vulkan library/spec. You get texture space shading, MVR in apps that support it. You get the new video decode/encode block. Potentially virtual-link which is nice for VR. You also get additional "theoretical" bandwidth due to better memory compression.
I don't know if these make the card worth it or not - just felt i should point it out.
Kaarme
I feel like you must have missed the point of my post. I was saying that if they sell an RTX card entirely lacking the physical RT functionality, they need to make it clear to avoid confusion and trouble. I'm actually interested in the new tech the cards have and consider it a step in the right direction, even if I'm not interested in the cards themselves because of the astronimical pricing. But would I be interested in an RTX card missing the RT? Take a guess.
RavenMaster
RTX 2060 DefinitelynotaGTX1070 Edition
vbetts
Moderator
That wouldn't make sense for a couple reasons, the RTX line is the RT capable series from Nvidia with actual hardware and software support in the tensor cores and in RTX, and these are Turing cores still. If these were going to be the lesser of the two, I doubt we would see the RTX name on them.
Denial
It actually doesn't need tensor cores to do RT - DICE doesn't even use them for BF5. If the architecture is Turing it supports RT - 90% of the changes for RT acceleration are in the ALUs. Nvidia isn't going to like redesign half of Turing for a midsized card. If it's Pascal and they call it RTX they are just a shitty company and bad at marketing (or good at marketing depending on how you look at it).
Kaarme
Well, yeah, I was replying to a person who presented the scenario of 2060 lacking the RT cores yet still getting called RTX. Maybe you missed the quote in my first post and misread what I was saying all along?
