Sounds reasonable to me, making it widely available for the season of gaming, and the holiday sales.

Nvidia confuses me. This basically makes the Titan X irrelevant. It has the exact same specs with a higher clock, just comes with less memory. Who needs 12GB anyway?

Rich people..

My guess is that they are waiting this long to sale the maximum number of Titan X. Who will want to buy a Titan X with no significant DP when you have this almost identical but cheaper card?

I'd actually say, half a year does not do that much magic in sales of the Titan X compared to a potential Ti model. As the original Titan (02/13) was launched even before the 780 (03/13), it does not quite match Maxwell's schedule. The 780Ti was launched in 11/13, at least the difference between the Titan X and a possible Ti would work out somehow. But still, I guess we won't see it in August or September, but October to be widely in stock.

Good, when win10 comes out, say hello to stacking vram across multiple gpu's, and I guess say good bye to titan-x, well, hopefully not 🙂. Waiting for reviews on this and the 390x. OHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh YEAH!

Looks like a winner If the price is cheaper than the ridiculous Titan and just as brawny, this may be the card to replace my old card. I don't see games hitting 12GB of RAM any time soon. Especially since the industry is strapped down to the most common denominator of the XBOX and PS4. It will be a long time before they start hitting 12GB and by then this card will be irrelevant anyway.

Good, when win10 comes out, say hello to stacking vram across multiple gpu's, and I guess say good bye to titan-x, well, hopefully not 🙂. Waiting for reviews on this and the 390x. OHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh YEAH!

hehe yeah, my 980 SLI is also waiting on stacked VRAM 😀 And of course, the 390X, because I guess we have a basic idea of how the Ti will perform, so it basically comes down to what AMD throws into the breach.

Obviously they can release it much sooner than after summer since its basically the same card. They just dont want to offend Titan-x owners too soon.

So if this card isn't due till what q3 where does that leave pascal release? 2016?

Mid to late 2016 maybe. they still need to shrink to 20nm without any problems

Looks like I'll want a 980Ti or 390X this year then! Don't want to wait till mid next year for a GPU upgrade. Also think they are skipping 20nm arent they? Going straight to 14 or 16nm FinFet design!?

16nm FF+ will be at full production in July/August according to TSMC. Latest rumors/court docs also show that Nvidia is using Samsung as a fab, but I think that might be for Tegra on 14nmFF, Samsung does have a 20nm too though.

How long does it take usually from production to us if everything goes well?

Long. Probably like November/December.

I was speaking of Titan X sales only because it's true they would drive sales up by releasing the TI right now. If they release both at the same time they would cut the Titan X sale by a lot. Why bother for the X, except if you want the bragging rights or need 12 GB for something specific.

True.

I honestly can't see a shrunk Maxwell. There would be little to no gain going to 20nm, 16nm FF can't handle GPU's, 16nm FF+ can but won't be shipping products till December probably. At that point PASCAL is like 3 months away. Despite rumors I think what you'll probably see is a 980Ti at the end of summer on 28nm. I think it will be a cut down Titan X. They aren't getting full yield with a chip that size. They may do something weird like 990 Ti that's full die, then a 980 Ti that's cut down, but that seems weird to me. I also am kind of predicting at AMD's 390x won't beat a Titan. I think maybe there will be an addition of it that matches it. Like maybe the WC edition will match, maybe at 4K it will win due to HBM, but I don't think it's going to be much faster. The only rumor that's been consistent is that it's going to be on 28nm and it's going to have roughly 40% more cores. Which puts the power output way past 300w. To cool that with fans you'd need to lower the clock speed so much, or watercool it. I do think it will be cheaper though, which is a win regardless. I think if you already have a 980/970 and you want better performance, you should SLI it. If you don't have a next generation card and don't care about power but really want performance and you need a card immediately, you should get a 295x. If you want a next gen card but are patient, be patient till you see 390x. If it's as good as Titan then buy that, the 980 Ti will probably be mediocre in performance compared to it. Could be wrong about everything, but that's my take on it all.

I honestly can't see a shrunk Maxwell. There would be little to no gain going to 20nm, 16nm FF can't handle GPU's, 16nm FF+ can but won't be shipping products till December probably. At that point PASCAL is like 3 months away. Despite rumors I think what you'll probably see is a 980Ti at the end of summer on 28nm. I think it will be a cut down Titan X. They aren't getting full yield with a chip that size. They may do something weird like 990 Ti that's full die, then a 980 Ti that's cut down, but that seems weird to me. I also am kind of predicting at AMD's 390x won't beat a Titan. I think maybe there will be an addition of it that matches it. Like maybe the WC edition will match, maybe at 4K it will win due to HBM, but I don't think it's going to be much faster. The only rumor that's been consistent is that it's going to be on 28nm and it's going to have roughly 40% more cores. Which puts the power output way past 300w. To cool that with fans you'd need to lower the clock speed so much, or watercool it. I do think it will be cheaper though, which is a win regardless. I think if you already have a 980/970 and you want better performance, you should SLI it. If you don't have a next generation card and don't care about power but really want performance and you need a card immediately, you should get a 295x. If you want a next gen card but are patient, be patient till you see 390x. If it's as good as Titan then buy that, the 980 Ti will probably be mediocre in performance compared to it. Could be wrong about everything, but that's my take on it all.

Sounds reasonable to me. I see the Ti to be a gimped / cut GM200, I'm just not all too sure it will have the full bandwidth... I hope they don't go the same route as with the 970, although I'm not to be bothered as I won't get myself one of those anyway. Volta, where art though? 😀

Well now I'm glad I bought my G Sync monitor, and this gives me some time to get the funds ready for my next upgrade, hope it's out sooner than November/December tho.

in this case "After Summer" is nvidia speak for "after 390x is released, we will scramble to tweak 980 Ti to sorta compete with the 390x" LOL

As another user already mentioned this on previous 980Ti news: Originally Posted by Bluefirexp "You guys living in your gamer world should think about the fact, that not each Viz-Studio or Viz-Architekt goes Quadro, we often have to stay with the consumer products. So the 12GB Titan X is pricewise the holy grale for lots of us - and we are a huge market - for iRAy or Vray GPU-Rendering. Many of our scenes in 3dsmax, Cinema4D etc. are really huge when it comes to rendering - and GPU rendering is only possible if the complete scene fits into the graphics card memory. If it doesn't fit, rendering falls back to the CPU. So with those 12GB and the power of MAxwell i can now say, that GPU rendering finally starts to make sense! Thanks NVIDIA for not abandoning us, the small Viz-Studios and freelancers, who can't afford those expensive Quadro systems." By that logic, nVidia has covered semi-pro people nicely, original Titan for those who need compute and the X for those who need a sh*t load of RAM. Was it intentional? Maybe, either way it's working out for those who actually need these cards as it was never intended for the gamers and the price speaks that clearly. So me included, we really should stop whining about Titan's position and it's price already, for gamer's cards yeah rip all you want!!

And I said in the previous 980 ti thread that the TitanX would be cheap alternative for those people who are in the business of CAD and other Workstation work considering them Quadro cards can go for several thousand dollars while the Titan X is only a grand. I see the Titan X is both a gaming card and a workstation card rolled into 1. Yeah 12gb of Vram is overkill for gaming but it can really help out at 4k.