GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Launch Date October 26th + Specs and Details

#5476911

Hilbert Hagedoorn

Administrator

2017-09-29 12:34

Yeah that was already fixed, thanks for noting though 🙂

#5476914

Fender178

2017-09-29 13:00

So Nvidia is pulling the old 560 ti 448 core trick now for those who remember those cards. Well too bad that you couldn't flash the 1070 BIOS to a 1070 Ti due to the fact of that the Architectures are different GP104-300 (Ti) vs a GP104-200 (Standard). Plus there are probably other differences as well on the card level.

#5476920

icedman

2017-09-29 13:21

If this was going to be sold at msrp I would buy one right away but I'm not crossing my fingers going by recent prices.

#5476932

Ricepudding

2017-09-29 14:10

Guessing Nvidia had a lot of slightly borked 1080 chips in their warehouse and wanted to sell them XD Be interesting to see the results, one SMX gone and using GDDR5 instead of GDDR5X, i cannot see this being much slower... within 10%-15% of the 1080 i reckon... Sadly mining is still pushing card prices through the roof :/

#5476939

Kaarme

2017-09-29 14:49

No doubt custom variants of 1070Ti will be out well before store shelves see any custom Vegas.

#5476943

scoter man1

2017-09-29 15:08

I still think I'll be skipping this whole generation with the current price tags.

#5476946

Calmmo

2017-09-29 15:18

You'd have to be desperate and without a GPU to go buy pascal at this point in its lifecycle.

#5476964

Agent-A01

2017-09-29 16:07

Alex13:

You'd have to be desperate and without a GPU to go buy pascal at this point in its lifecycle.

Why? What other options are there? Certainly not vega.

jazh23:

MSRP= $399, Amazon Price= $499 to buy it at that price, you will have to go to the factory...

Amazon does MSRP; but they have no control over 3rd party seller's prices on the marketplace.

#5477042

SHS

2017-09-29 19:25

Take my money and give my card LoL

#5477047

SHS

2017-09-29 19:30

Loophole35:

This would be a hell of an upgrade for you.

You beat as I have just a tab above that to spent coming in Nov which was plan for new GPU for this black friday.

#5477050

tunejunky

2017-09-29 19:36

good move for nvidia. by striking at the consumer "sweet spot" msrp, they extend their time on the clock working out the bugs on the next gen, whether that's volta or not. and, not coincidentally, doing a bit of a screw you to amd. pascal's here for a bit boys. nvidia can afford to buy time by doing a pascal refresh but it will have to deliver an answer before navi - that is the point the technology scale tilts to amd. nvidia really has to have their scalability game on point by that time.

#5477053

SHS

2017-09-29 19:48

tunejunky:

good move for nvidia. by striking at the consumer "sweet spot" msrp, they extend their time on the clock working out the bugs on the next gen, whether that's volta or not. and, not coincidentally, doing a bit of a screw you to amd. pascal's here for a bit boys. nvidia can afford to buy time by doing a pascal refresh but it will have to deliver an answer before navi - that is the point the technology scale tilts to amd. nvidia really has to have their scalability game on point by that time.

Yup and my beat it is ever bit as fast Vega 56 if just hair bit faster but with out the jackup price

#5477075

Calmmo

2017-09-29 20:29

Agent-A01:

Why? What other options are there? Certainly not vega.

I love that everything has to be about some stupid brand war on G3D these days 🙂 No it's a bad purchase because it's a near end of life product, a year and a half ago, wonderful. And it's not like we're talking about yet another titan for the no sense, money doesn't matter "whales" that'll just buy whatever as long as its the fastest thing when they're buying it. Anyway, reminds me of my best pal who kept asking for advice for GPU, and he bought a 970 even tho I kept telling him to wait. Two months before the 1xxx cards came out, his wife tells me he's still mad about wasting that money on a 970.

#5477078

Agent-A01

2017-09-29 20:39

Alex13:

I love that everything has to be about some stupid brand war on G3D these days 🙂 No it's a bad purchase because it's a near end of life product, a year and a half ago, wonderful. And it's not like we're talking about yet another titan for the no sense, money doesn't matter "whales" that'll just buy whatever as long as its the fastest thing when they're buying it. Anyway, reminds me of my best pal who kept asking for advice for GPU, and he bought a 970 even tho I kept telling him to wait. Two months before the 1xxx cards came out, his wife tells me he's still mad about wasting that money on a 970.

EoL? What basis did you make that assumption off of? Volta is going to be out after GDDR6 mass production starts. You're looking at Q2 2018 for an equivalent of GV104. We aren't talking about a month or two, 9 months is a long time. Are you going to tell new system builders to stick with IGP until volta release?

#5477085

tunejunky

2017-09-29 20:55

Loophole35:

I just don't get where this confidence in AMD R&D in their graphics department comes from. They need to prove they can deliver something before I will expect anything from them.

well i can see where you'd have that attitude. what i'm talking about are the physical properties of the gpu die. for example, volta is at the maximum size of any chip as it encompasses virtually the entire wafer...in order to actually sell them, they have to be sorted with certain sections disabled because of variations in yield...and those disabled sections are not consistent except for being at the periphery...which takes time and money and thus is not ready for primetime. like ryzen, vega is scalable. instead of "zeppelin" modules, you'd have the equivalent. meaning at 7nm, they could configure a gpu with multiple times the performance currently available at a far higher rate of yield, lowering costs, power, and temps with increased frequency. that is navi. that scares nvidia (justly) as they race to come up with an alternative.

#5477089

Agent-A01

2017-09-29 21:04

tunejunky:

well i can see where you'd have that attitude. what i'm talking about are the physical properties of the gpu die. for example, volta is at the maximum size of any chip as it encompasses virtually the entire wafer...in order to actually sell them, they have to be sorted with certain sections disabled because of variations in yield...and those disabled sections are not consistent except for being at the periphery...which takes time and money and thus is not ready for primetime. like ryzen, vega is scalable. instead of "zeppelin" modules, you'd have the equivalent. meaning at 7nm, they could configure a gpu with multiple times the performance currently available at a far higher rate of yield, lowering costs, power, and temps with increased frequency. that is navi. that scares nvidia (justly) as they race to come up with an alternative.

GV100 is huge and is not going to be in huge mass productions. They aren't using that chip for Geforce cards. Geforce cards max size will be much smaller than that. Therefore "not ready for primetime' or whatever else you are saying doesn't apply here. Secondly, AMD is known for product hype and not being able to fulfill that hype. Saying Navi is going to be exceptionally good is just wishful thinking.

#5477096

millibyte

2017-09-29 21:23

Wait for Vega... Wait for AIBs... Wait for drivers... Wait for Navi... http://www.usgwarchives.net/mi/oceana/photos/tombstones/hart/vega232493nph.jpg The unicorns seem appropriate.

#5477113

Calmmo

2017-09-29 22:31

Agent-A01:

EoL? What basis did you make that assumption off of? Volta is going to be out after GDDR6 mass production starts. You're looking at Q2 2018 for an equivalent of GV104. We aren't talking about a month or two, 9 months is a long time. Are you going to tell new system builders to stick with IGP until volta release?

ok we're just taking shit arent we, new system builders pointless point already answered by my first post if you actually bothered to read. And im really sorry i didnt take the bait for the brand war post, have fun.

#5477117

tunejunky

2017-09-29 22:45

hey guys - i'm not a fanboy for anything but technology. what i've stated about volta and navi are facts, not opinions. like Woodward and Bernstein you have to "follow the money", in these cases what i'm talking about can be gleaned from any trade pub and investment info. the fact of the matter is amd's "infinity fabric" is revolutionary and both nvidia and intel are racing to emulate it. again, not an opinion, just fact. whatever feathers are ruffled, so be it. but reading the amd roadmap, reiterated the last two years, is the fact that navi is going to be the first multi-core gpu. and they could, if desired, go full TR4 for the socket.

#5477126

RavenMaster

2017-09-29 23:26

Well i'm sitting here using 2x GTX 1080's in SLI and have been doing so for over a year now. 1070Ti seems so lackluster especially when Volta is nearing readiness.