Is it my imagination or has nVidia been pumping out drivers at a more rapid pace in the last month?
I'm still on 368.81 since the driver I tested after that shat all over my card's performance. Doing that testing took way more time than I have to spend just to see if my games will perform as well as before.
Can anyone verify if there are any non-crippled drivers for the 900 series after the 368 branch?
Is it my imagination or has nVidia been pumping out drivers at a more rapid pace in the last month?
I'm still on 368.81 since the driver I tested after that shat all over my card's performance. Doing that testing took way more time than I have to spend just to see if my games will perform as well as before.
Can anyone verify if there are any non-crippled drivers for the 900 series after the 368 branch?
It's your imagination that they are crippling maxwell.. lol
It's your imagination that they are crippling maxwell.. lol
No, it's real world performance in every single game I tested from modern games to ****ing League of Legends. When you lose 15 frames a second in a game you can barely maintain 60 fps, that's a problem.
And no, I'm not the only one reporting performance falling off a cliff after the 368 drivers.
System issue. Nobody is crippling anything.
No issues here or on a 980 system.
A 980 Ti is not a 970? What system issues? Why does everything magically work fine when reverting drivers? Why is everyone with a 970 who I've asked this reporting the same results?
A 980 Ti is not a 970? What system issues? Why does everything magically work fine when reverting drivers? Why is everyone with a 970 who I've asked this reporting the same results?
System specific issue.
Just asked a steam friend who has a 970, no issues on latest drivers.
If everyone was having the same issue for the past half dozen drivers, there would be an outrage, which there isn't.
In fact, you are the first I've seen of this issue.
System specific issue.
Just asked a steam friend who has a 970, no issues on latest drivers.
If everyone was having the same issue for the past half dozen drivers, there would be an outrage, which there isn't.
In fact, you are the first I've seen of this issue.
lol witcher 3 and a bunch of old threads.
It's a fact, witcher 3 did not get an optimized code path for kepler.
People who said they purposely tried to gimp kepler are crazy; they just didn't put much effort into optimizing it.
New architectures get more attention, like it's always been.
People who don't understand technology and how drivers work will make up conspiracy theories like that.
Plus the fact that he thinks NV is purposely cripping GTX 970s also makes zero sense because all maxwell cards use the same DX code paths.
People who said they purposely tried to gimp kepler are crazy; they just didn't put much effort into optimizing it.
They put pretty much none. Which is intentional, and they knew the results would be catastrophic, but they did it anyway. It's curious the way you just dismiss anything negative about a known crap company, who has been caught multiple times doing shady BS as, "crazy".
Plus the fact that he thinks NV is purposely cripping GTX 970s also makes zero sense because all maxwell cards use the same DX code paths.
I never outright said that or said it's intentional. The reality is the performance on a 970 (mine and all those who I asked) has been **** after the 368 branch of drivers.
You say "system specific issues" as if this magically and commonly happens. It should be pretty obvious what could cause such a massive problem if it really is anything but the drivers, yet no one including you have any ideas.
And if nVidia really wanted to cripple the 970, which would make a lot more sense considering the volume of that outweighs all other Maxwell cards combined, then it could be done so easily. So what they used the same X or Y or anything. On the driver side it can easily be set to run like garbage for any specific card.
A 20%+ drop in performance goes beyond negligence, stop trying to victim blame, it's not some magic system specific problem. It's widespread, it's widely reported. How could I have possibly been the first you heard of it when I've seen people talk of it in the driver release threads here before I ever tried of those drivers? If it was some problem one specific branch that's been fixed, I guess I'll eventually find out, but I'm not willing to do 3 hours of testing to find out.
Stop saying "no it's you" as if we're some retarded scrubs who don't know anything. If the drivers are plummeting in performance due to something "specific" with that system, it's still a problem with the drivers. No matter how you try to cut it. nVidia's latest drivers have destroyed the performance of the 970, intentional or not, you can victim blame, call us "crazy" (while offering zero actual information) all you want but that's a fact.
They put pretty much none. Which is intentional, and they knew the results would be catastrophic, but they did it anyway. It's curious the way you just dismiss anything negative about a known crap company, who has been caught multiple times doing shady BS as, "crazy".
I never outright said that or said it's intentional. The reality is the performance on a 970 (mine and all those who I asked) has been **** after the 368 branch of drivers.
You say "system specific issues" as if this magically and commonly happens. It should be pretty obvious what could cause such a massive problem if it really is anything but the drivers, yet no one including you have any ideas.
And if nVidia really wanted to cripple the 970, which would make a lot more sense considering the volume of that outweighs all other Maxwell cards combined, then it could be done so easily. So what they used the same X or Y or anything. On the driver side it can easily be set to run like garbage for any specific card.
A 20%+ drop in performance goes beyond negligence, stop trying to victim blame, it's not some magic system specific problem. It's widespread, it's widely reported. How could I have possibly been the first you heard of it when I've seen people talk of it in the driver release threads here before I ever tried of those drivers? If it was some problem one specific branch that's been fixed, I guess I'll eventually find out, but I'm not willing to do 3 hours of testing to find out.
Stop saying "no it's you" as if we're some retarded scrubs who don't know anything. If the drivers are plummeting in performance due to something "specific" with that system, it's still a problem with the drivers. No matter how you try to cut it. nVidia's latest drivers have destroyed the performance of the 970, intentional or not, you can victim blame, call us "crazy" (while offering zero actual information) all you want but that's a fact.
You said anything above 368 cripples maxwell.
I said you were the first I've heard of it from, then you link me 5 threads to witcher 3.
I am not denying the fact they didn't have optimized drivers for witcher 3...
Not optimizing for a new game for an older architecture is not "purposely crippling" anything.
Driver optimization for
I wouldn't know of driver issues but I remember having issues with SLI 3xAOC 1080P monitors and 3.5g Vram partition issue which everyone shouted down, like the chap said it almost felt like it was well organized defend attack.
With the Vram some at first even denied the issue ever existed, no matter what proof you put up ..
Not saying they Gimp driver although nothing would surprise me with Nvidia Or AMD these days.
Yep, it's NVs fault for publishing incorrect specs, people had every right to be be mad.
But it still technically had 4GB and could use it.
Still best bang for buck card since the 8800GT
But anyways, NV is #1 priority is to make money.
They're not going to waste time and resources to gimp a specific card, makes absolutely zero sense.
No, it's real world performance in every single game I tested from modern games to ****ing League of Legends. When you lose 15 frames a second in a game you can barely maintain 60 fps, that's a problem.
And no, I'm not the only one reporting performance falling off a cliff after the 368 drivers.
Something else is wrong with your system then. I have 2 systems, one with a 980Ti and another with a 970. The newest drivers are as good as or better than the older 368 you are still using.
There's always a glut of new drivers when we get major title releases all crammed together using different and/or proprietary game engines.
Over the last 5 weeks, we've had:
Titanfall2, modified Source game engine.
BF1, modified Frostbite3 branch from Battlefront.
Gears of War, Unreal Engine 4.11 branch.
Sid Meier’s Civilization V, Fraxis proprietary engine.
Forza Horizon 3, Turn 10 Studio's generic DX12 engine.
And, lest we not forget it's christmas, and ironing out the rough spots before santa steals your ginger wine and eats your cookies, is a good thing.
You said anything above 368 cripples maxwell.
I said you were the first I've heard of it from, then you link me 5 threads to witcher 3.
No, I said every driver above 368 I've tested ruined my performance. The entire point was to ask if anyone has tested a one which works properly, which I did. And those links weren't even from me, but brings up a good point. When the 700 series performance went down the toilet anyone who brought it up was met by rabid fanboys.
So again, please show me facts where there are crippling 970s.
My performance fell off a cliff. Would you like to me to spend hours reinstalling those drivers, recording individual videos and taking screenshots to prove it? Obviously that's sarcasm, I'm not going to spend any more time, especially to prove that nVida... NVIDIA of all people are being ****ters.
It doesn't need to be intentional, they've crippled the 970 at least at one point with their crappy releases. If someone breaks someone's leg that's still crippling regardless of if it was intentional. Do you think nVidia will pay their software developers to fix bugs in their drivers that affect old hardware that could still potentially hold back buyers from getting their new? Of course not. If it's been fixed by now, it sure as hell isn't out of the goodness of nVidia's heart, it's because it was necessary for another reason.
Still best bang for buck card since the 8800GT
The 8800GT was how much, $200-$250? Any decent model of the 970 was well over $400 here. Double the price of the 8800GT, the fact that anyone could consider that as "bang for the buck" shows how ****ed the ecosystem is.
Something else is wrong with your system then. I have 2 systems, one with a 980Ti and another with a 970. The newest drivers are as good as or better than the older 368 you are still using.
I haven't tested any new drivers in quite a while which is why I was asking in this thread.
Is it my imagination or has nVidia been pumping out drivers at a more rapid pace in the last month?
I'm still on 368.81 since the driver I tested after that shat all over my card's performance. Doing that testing took way more time than I have to spend just to see if my games will perform as well as before.
Can anyone verify if there are any non-crippled drivers for the 900 series after the 368 branch?
No idea about the other claims, but I have to say I'm still on 368.81 also since every driver since gives me issues
System specific issue.
Just asked a steam friend who has a 970, no issues on latest drivers.
If everyone was having the same issue for the past half dozen drivers, there would be an outrage, which there isn't.
In fact, you are the first I've seen of this issue.
Nope not system specific at all, 960 here and every driver since 368.81 has performance issues. Reported widely also so just because you and your friend have no issues doesn't mean they don't exist.
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