Gabe Newell talks about Cyberpunk 2077 and sympathizes with CD Projekt

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Could it be that Gabe Newell understands so well the situation, because this whole dissatisfaction "riot" amongst gamers he foresaw if Valve would release HL3? That game could not satisfy expectations. Doesn't matter that the dev team will bring something brilliant, new, Innovative. There is a harsh reality as a creator to find that people can never be happy or satisfied with creator's content.
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no compassion for cd project red , learn to wait to release a game ! first impression is everything especcially with gamers ! i still think they are greedy idiots , something we see way too much of these days i haven't seen a good game in over 10 years.. take note devs ! also cyberpunks story couldve been finished in a few hours if it wasn't for all the choices and scenes , time based missions wich you need top skip time for.. many bad things in this game if anything there was 1 thing that i enyoied , the world they made that is cyberpunk and the body mods but i feel they couldve done better on that part aswell i guess it was a good lesson but you better be damn sure not to screw up the next cyberpunk you make..
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zhalonia:

no compassion for cd project red , learn to wait to release a game ! first impression is everything especcially with gamers ! i still think they are greedy idiots , something we see way too much of these days i haven't seen a good game in over 10 years.. take note devs ! also cyberpunks story couldve been finished in a few hours if it wasn't for all the choices and scenes , time based missions wich you need top skip time for.. many bad things in this game if anything there was 1 thing that i enyoied , the world they made that is cyberpunk and the body mods but i feel they couldve done better on that part aswell i guess it was a good lesson but you better be damn sure not to screw up the next cyberpunk you make..
I'm sure there is a good reason for your bitterness but I doubt they deserve that much hate. Specially the devs that aren't in charge of the marketing, release dates etc. I personally enjoyed the game, encountered very few glitches can't even call them bugs (PC).
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zhalonia:

no compassion for cd project red , learn to wait to release a game ! first impression is everything especially with gamers ! i still think they are greedy idiots , something we see way too much of these days i haven't seen a good game in over 10 years.. take note devs ! also cyberpunks story could've been finished in a few hours if it wasn't for all the choices and scenes , time based missions wich you need top skip time for.. many bad things in this game if anything there was 1 thing that i enjoyed , the world they made that is cyberpunk and the body mods but i feel they could've done better on that part as well i guess it was a good lesson but you better be damn sure not to screw up the next cyberpunk you make..
Let's see. Witcher 3 won almost all prizes in the gaming history and CDProjekt could ride the wave and cash in the hype and sell (as greedy idiots) everything lore and DLC related. Yet, DLC and GOTY is what made them so loved in the gaming community, and GOG never cease to offer very good deals for CDProjekt games. And gamers got for free DLC and a LOT of game related lore and CD Projekt released even a fan requested video showing their gratitude [youtube=zgqz8Je7P0s] So much for greediness here. Or a good game!? Are you for real? Really @zhalonia , this is your way of posting on the forums? How many lines of code YOU write and sold yourself? Do you know the costs involved in developing and project management? Don't answer, there is no need. Please, don't wait any second and go to the CD Projekt HQ and show them how it is done, please. Releasing the Cyberpunk was a bet and a risk involving move. They knew it and now they took responsibility. Isn't this enough? On the other hand, getting the first batch in everything, be it games or hardware is always a high risk bet, you can be sure to be the guinea pig. So gamers are blaming CDProjekt for their unwillingness to wait and buy the game when it was ready? Speaking for the sake of speaking is something i can't stand. And I'll finish saying: I am a regular here, and very, very rarely lash out or say anything as above. One can see all my post and 80% of what I am saying is " Guys, let's keep this civil". But this made me wrote all that. I am not affiliated to CD Projekt in any way, shape o r form. I don't own the game, I always buy games when they reach GOTY.
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I'm getting old and can't seem to get into most games, let alone finish them. ...and yet, I finished Cyberpunk twice. It has many little issues to get fixed, some of the dev's choices are certainly debatable, but anyone who says this game is "complete garbage" (etc, etc) has, quite frankly, a useless opinion that lacks objectivity.
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anticupidon:

Could it be that Gabe Newell understands so well the situation, because this whole dissatisfaction "riot" amongst gamers he foresaw if Valve would release HL3? That game could not satisfy expectations. Doesn't matter that the dev team will bring something brilliant, new, Innovative. There is a harsh reality as a creator to find that people can never be happy or satisfied with creator's content.
Not really, he´s only concerned about his 30% sales cut.
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There is no excuses to projects released unfinished with the awareness they are in this state. I couldn't care less if it is game director's fault, the devs or anyone else. The part damaged is the customer who pays for a working, fully tested and finished product. This time is Cdprojekt, but if this happens again with other firms, the same treatment should be applied.
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Only RTX 20/30 owners defend this game to justify their overpriced bricks as always.
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Fox2232:

I'll play evil. GTA 5 has not changed much from GTA 3. And most fun I had with GTA was with 1st one.
Really? I preferred GTA2 tbh.
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Fox2232:

Dark Souls cashes on self punishing people.
Git gud
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itpro:

Only RTX 20/30 owners defend this game to justify their overpriced bricks as always.
Eh no, rtx 2080 here, to me the game is bad, broken mess, performance may be ok not great but the amount of detail and physics missing is beyond a joke, ai are stupid from cops spawning anywhere to the normal ones that just stop and turn all the time After that so called big update im done with the game till maybe a year or more, the game is clearly not finished
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Could be like Bethesda, and not actually release any patches or fixes for the game. At least CD Projekt is trying to fix their game.
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vbetts:

Could be like Bethesda, and not actually release any patches or fixes for the game. At least CD Projekt is trying to fix their game.
It has a long way to go.
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vbetts:

Could be like Bethesda, and not actually release any patches or fixes for the game. At least CD Projekt is trying to fix their game.
The games are patched by mod community and they know this so why would both to put resource into that?, Skyrim is how old ? and unofficial patch is still going strong? and honestly they done better job then Bethesda ever would of. it can easily be aruged that game is not playable without the unoffical patch. Image if most game had mod community like that? one 2 thing would happen games would actual be fixed and support for long time or and more game would be release utterly broken upon release. I honestly hope CD projekt and every other publisher learned lesson from this, dont force game out the door just to appease head of the company or stock holders, but i dont that will happen, less something unthinkable happens the get sued go bankrupted and are no more as result which probably even less likely.
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Indies got a lot of my time last decade ! Rimworld , darkest dungeon , kenshi are the three that come to mind. People consider bad what ever they do not like .... I for example when i was asked if the zelda series is good i said yes it is good most of the games in there are in all time classic status . And then came the question witch one is the best ... Just for me to respond , no idea never played em i do not like em personally 😛 he was so confused ! Anyway what i am trying to say is that is ok to not like a game but that does not make trash or even bad it can still be a great game .
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anticupidon:

Could it be that Gabe Newell understands so well the situation, because this whole dissatisfaction "riot" amongst gamers he foresaw if Valve would release HL3? That game could not satisfy expectations. Doesn't matter that the dev team will bring something brilliant, new, Innovative. There is a harsh reality as a creator to find that people can never be happy or satisfied with creator's content.
Well, that's probably why they made HL: Alyx, and made it a VR title. It wasn't the game HL fans asked for and for the most part, it was as surprise, so as a result, it wasn't a disappointment. It's kinda like asking for vanilla and getting chocolate instead - it's not what you wanted but most people aren't going to be unhappy about it. That being said, I know there are people who were butthurt that it was a VR-only title, and there are people out there who, even if they like chocolate, would get in a hissy-fit over it. But when you're facing an impossible-to-please crowd, you either let them all walk away or only some. So yeah, I think you're right that Gabe realized CDPR was in a similar situation. However... they didn't have to be. There was too much hype and too much developer attention was taken away from the game. I think people would have been a lot less pissed if it was managed better and if the marketing team chilled out a bit.
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anticupidon:

Let's see. Witcher 3 won almost all prizes in the gaming history and CDProjekt could ride the wave and cash in the hype and sell (as greedy idiots) everything lore and DLC related. Yet, DLC and GOTY is what made them so loved in the gaming community, and GOG never cease to offer very good deals for CDProjekt games. And gamers got for free DLC and a LOT of game related lore and CD Projekt released even a fan requested video showing their gratitude [youtube=zgqz8Je7P0s] So much for greediness here. Or a good game!? Are you for real? Really @zhalonia , this is your way of posting on the forums? How many lines of code YOU write and sold yourself? Do you know the costs involved in developing and project management? Don't answer, there is no need. Please, don't wait any second and go to the CD Projekt HQ and show them how it is done, please. Releasing the Cyberpunk was a bet and a risk involving move. They knew it and now they took responsibility. Isn't this enough? On the other hand, getting the first batch in everything, be it games or hardware is always a high risk bet, you can be sure to be the guinea pig. So gamers are blaming CDProjekt for their unwillingness to wait and buy the game when it was ready? Speaking for the sake of speaking is something i can't stand. And I'll finish saying: I am a regular here, and very, very rarely lash out or say anything as above. One can see all my post and 80% of what I am saying is " Guys, let's keep this civil". But this made me wrote all that. I am not affiliated to CD Projekt in any way, shape o r form. I don't own the game, I always buy games when they reach GOTY.
ok witcher fan lol , for me i could care less about that game but hey glad you enyoied it.. but i have my own opinion about that shitty game that was made for nvidia with the redicouless hairphysics xD you do you boo ill keep my opinions for myself as i don't post much aswell , cyberpunk was one of the games i looked forward too if you can't understand that i am mad because they released early is my problem not yours and you shouldn't even care for my opinion or what i write here got it ? and for a devs point of view oh yes i am very ashamed for all the people that worked on this game only to be ruined by 1 ceo that made the decision to ruin it for everyone and release early ! that is why i am mad and rightfully so , the bullshit needs to stop. and yes then im talking about you saying " its ok to release an unfinished game aslong as we have the brain to wait and buy it when its finished to our personal standard ? LOL ! did you really think im gonna keep a list of unfinished released games that i will keep an eye on untill its playable ? LOL whatever , maybe i should not have replied i think you know how dumb you sound.
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Best game ever for me at least Unreal 2004 still very actively played lots of mods by the community just hours of pure mindless frag and be fragged its great, but I may be biased as have played all the series since Unreal 99 but 04 was the pinnacle and its not been beaten since...not yet anyway
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anticupidon:

Let's see. Witcher 3 won almost all prizes in the gaming history and CDProjekt could ride the wave and cash in the hype and sell (as greedy idiots) everything lore and DLC related. Yet, DLC and GOTY is what made them so loved in the gaming community, and GOG never cease to offer very good deals for CDProjekt games. And gamers got for free DLC and a LOT of game related lore and CD Projekt released even a fan requested video showing their gratitude [youtube=zgqz8Je7P0s] So much for greediness here. Or a good game!? Are you for real? Really @zhalonia , this is your way of posting on the forums? How many lines of code YOU write and sold yourself? Do you know the costs involved in developing and project management? Don't answer, there is no need. Please, don't wait any second and go to the CD Projekt HQ and show them how it is done, please. Releasing the Cyberpunk was a bet and a risk involving move. They knew it and now they took responsibility. Isn't this enough? On the other hand, getting the first batch in everything, be it games or hardware is always a high risk bet, you can be sure to be the guinea pig. So gamers are blaming CDProjekt for their unwillingness to wait and buy the game when it was ready? Speaking for the sake of speaking is something i can't stand. And I'll finish saying: I am a regular here, and very, very rarely lash out or say anything as above. One can see all my post and 80% of what I am saying is " Guys, let's keep this civil". But this made me wrote all that. I am not affiliated to CD Projekt in any way, shape o r form. I don't own the game, I always buy games when they reach GOTY.
They threw away any good will they created with Witcher 3 with Cyberpunk. 100 hour crunch weeks for devs to make the rushed release dates, then blaming the QA team for all the bugs on the consoles, marketing being just a bunch of lies about what the game was. Please stop yourself with the "how many lines of code did you write" - they took no responsibility, they just went "oh... uhm, yeah, uh, the QA team sure didn't do their job!" and just continued to rake in money. Just because you don't write code doesn't mean you can't criticize and that you can't see that corporate overlords just messed it up in the end. They didn't start actual development till a few years ago, the game today represents something like ~3 years of development, not 7. That's why they had to crunch so much, the game was all over the place and more akin to something like Anthem in its problems. It is supremely ironic that corporate politics ruined a cyberpunk game.