First Hyperloop Passenger Test

gUNN1993

2020-11-11 20:15

Reddoguk:

One tiny crack in the tube and boom everyone inside will be squirted out like toothpaste. I honest think this whole thing is a Pipe Dream...^^

The pressure difference isn't anywhere near high enough for that, more likely a slow death through asphyxiation. P.S google crab sucked into underwater pipe to see what a real pressure difference does XD

#5853547

toyo

2020-11-11 21:19

Francesco:

I can't believe how many people here, even in an enthusiast tech website, have such unimaginative minds. When we talk about a possibile future tech, we shouldn't be limited to what is possbile or what would be the costs nowadays or in the near future, we should look much, much farer, as things can change rapidly. Sooner or later something will replace trains for what concerns mass transportation via land. only by testing and experimenting we will find a better solution, not to mention that working on crazy things can bring innovations in areas that aren't even remotely connected. The fact alone that someone is actually working on this thing is awesome for me. Most Leonardo Da Vinci projects never seen the light, as they were unpractical or hindered by the limited tech of the time, but still inspired generations of engineers.

You misunderstand us then. Nobody is saying that you should not research futuristic tech, quite the contrary. What we are against is the hype, the "OMG a tech CEO dude" fanboyism, the PR, the insanely obnoxious attempts to sell things as more than they are, the super, incredibly dumb tech zines and news sites that pick it up and further spread what is essentially propaganda/misinfo for clicks. The consumerist society is pretty lame already, without tech bros&sis and their startups trying to milk everyone further.

#5853576

kapu

2020-11-11 23:08

Reddoguk:

One tiny crack in the tube and boom everyone inside will be squirted out like toothpaste. Now imagine if this thing was above ground and some loon with a powerful gun thinks it'd be fun to shoot at it. Plus they want to seal off sections every 1/4 mile with a big sliding door that has to open on time 100% of the time but doing that in a vacuum will make it not want to open. I honest think this whole thing is a Pipe Dream...^^

THats not going to happen because pressure inside is not that low. Bigger concern are vacuum pumps ( i know a bit about them) , they said they need vacum pumps every 100m ( if i heard correct ). Vacuum pumps take enormous amount of energy, maybe they can use very small one but still ....

#5853586

Loobyluggs

2020-11-11 23:31

Francesco:

Still, even if Musk is a greedy impostor, it is also thanks to him that we are speaking again of space exploration, and that brilliant people can work on crazy projects that, even if they will never be viable, can light the road for others.

...Using tax payers money to do it...besides, what do you want to light the way for? So that Elon can light up the road into a dead end, or, off a cliff? Space exploration...you must be kidding, you have to be kidding...explore what? Another dead and lifeless planetary body? For what? For how much tax payers $$$ to be totally and utterly wasted so we can find out exactly what we already know? Gimme a break. If HE wants to waste his own money, go the F ahead - wasting other peoples money so he can increase the share value of his vanity company - line drawn in sand. By the way, the planet Earth is already in space, as is the solar system and everything in it. Exploring Earth is the same as exploring space, in fact, it's more interesting, as there is more on earth than there is on Mars or even, every single other object orbiting the sun. Going to Mars is a death sentence and, a ****ing expensive and pointless death sentence - so if EM wants to go there himself using his own money and then die there like a fool, I guess I could live with that as, the world would be lighter by one moron. EM's life is not to be lived vicariously. It's just not worth your time, like...BS vacumn train ideas that other people came up with, but, have a new 'hyperloop' badge on them...

#5853592

Noisiv

2020-11-11 23:48

Loobyluggs:

Using tax payers money to do it...besides, what do you want to light the way for? So that Elon can light up the road into a dead end, or, off a cliff? Space exploration...you must be kidding, you have to be kidding...explore what? Another dead and lifeless planetary body? For what? For how much tax payers $$$ to be totally and utterly wasted so we can find out exactly what we already know? Gimme a break. If HE wants to waste his own money, go the F ahead - wasting other peoples money so he can increase the share value of his vanity company - line drawn in sand.

The winning recipe has always been - the govts money for fundamental research. And if/when something pops up, only then you spend your own money, patent it and involve private capital and angel investors. Also known as socialism for the rich, rugged individualism for the rest. That's why its "open-source", because they got nothing except that embarrassing pamphlet that a slightly smarter high-school kid could have came up with. Otherwise it would have been rounded up and patented loooong ago.

#5853594

alanm

2020-11-11 23:57

Something doesnt make sense. If governments are willing to invest billions in such projects, you would think they've also put in tons of money in feasibility studies. I'm not sure who to believe, the naysayers or those who think it can be done.

#5853687

Loobyluggs

2020-11-12 09:16

alanm:

Something doesn't make sense. If governments are willing to invest billions in such projects, you would think they've also put in tons of money in feasibility studies. I'm not sure who to believe, the naysayers or those who think it can be done.

That's fallacious...but understandable.

Francesco:

You are unimaginative, friend. People thought land was flat, and there was no need to go and check.. because we knew. And Earth was at the centre of the universe and everything turned around it... any time spent trying to prove it was time wasted... because well... we already knew. I could go on for hours. Now... I'm sure you are laughing, those people were silly troglodytes, we are now so adavanced and know everything.... Yeah... for sure... History tells us that every time we assume we know something... time, be it decades or centuries, tells us we were wrong, that's the case for biology, medicine, astronomy etc. Centuries from now we will look as troglodytes as those that painted Earth as a flat mass on a paper sheet. The difference between us and past troglodytes is that we can see a bigger picture, bigger yes but still very small and incomplete. The truth is that we don't know.

We do know. We have known for years...centuries in fact. Mars is dead rock. A big waste of time, and I am tired of this ancient and...provincial view of achievement to support a narrative that states: we need someone to do X to show that it can be done. We do NOT need to go to Mars to know that we can go to Mars. I know we can/could go there, because we're Man, and Man can do anything...except accept truth, it seems.

#5853713

xIcarus

2020-11-12 10:24

Loobyluggs:

We do know. We have known for years...centuries in fact. Mars is dead rock. A big waste of time, and I am tired of this ancient and...provincial view of achievement to support a narrative that states: we need someone to do X to show that it can be done. We do NOT need to go to Mars to know that we can go to Mars. I know we can/could go there, because we're Man, and Man can do anything...except accept truth, it seems.

I'm sorry, but you don't know this. Everything you're saying is assumption. Until 2 years ago we didn't even know liquid water exists on Mars, and neither did we know that organic molecules exist on the planet's surface. If we hadn't sent Curiosity on Mars we'd still be none the wiser. I agree that we're not spending enough on exploring our own planet (mapping the ocean floor for example), but no matter how you look at it space exploration is one of the next large steps in humanity's history. If anything, we're completely trashing our planet right now so discovering potentially habitable planets (even with man-made infrastructure) would be a good thing.

#5853760

Picolete

2020-11-12 13:03

alanm:

Something doesnt make sense. If governments are willing to invest billions in such projects, you would think they've also put in tons of money in feasibility studies. I'm not sure who to believe, the naysayers or those who think it can be done.

People on goverment(all around the world) only care about taking a cut from the money invested

#5853780

k3vst3r

2020-11-12 13:50

What about earthquakes too? won't that cause havoc.

#5853784

Denial

2020-11-12 13:55

k3vst3r:

What about earthquakes too? won't that cause havoc.

No, because it's fixed to the ground and the individual sections are separated with lateral dampers.

#5853785

alanm

2020-11-12 13:55

Picolete:

People on goverment(all around the world) only care about taking a cut from the money invested

You dont understand. Independent feasibility studies by top engineering firms should be enough to outline whats involved, the costs, the risks, to see if the project is worth it or not. Any Joe Blow can appear on Youtube and dismiss it out of hand. How about a synopsis from the top experts in the field? Govts dont usually spend $ billions for nothing unless extensive, in-depth studies by qualified engineering firms were done.

#5853819

H83

2020-11-12 14:58

Hyperloop seems to be one of those concepts, that is great in theory but then falls apart in real life...

#5853899

Reddoguk

2020-11-12 17:45

We all know that FTL travel is never going to happen so getting out of this lil solar system is near impossible. You all know the nearest star to ours is Alpha Centauri @ over 4 light years away, it would take over a 100 years to reach it. That's why if aliens ever did turn up here they would need to be so advanced over us that we would be mere ants to them. Earth would recover after a mass extinction event but we need to have a base on the moon or Mars, that way we could re seed after earth heals.

#5853901

Loobyluggs

2020-11-12 17:50

Francesco:

No offense man, but you seem to have a limited view in this aspect. You are too focused on Mars. You see Mars, I see beyond Mars. Mars is just one step, a step like landing on Moon, building a permanent space station etc. Steps by steps techs and knowledge will improve and things will happen. Maybe you don't care because these small steps will not bring anything valuable during the course of your life, but humanity as whole should think in a much bigger scope and should care.

I mostly agree.

#5853904

Loobyluggs

2020-11-12 17:52

xIcarus:

I'm sorry, but you don't know this. Everything you're saying is assumption. Until 2 years ago we didn't even know liquid water exists on Mars, and neither did we know that organic molecules exist on the planet's surface. If we hadn't sent Curiosity on Mars we'd still be none the wiser. I agree that we're not spending enough on exploring our own planet (mapping the ocean floor for example), but no matter how you look at it space exploration is one of the next large steps in humanity's history. If anything, we're completely trashing our planet right now so discovering potentially habitable planets (even with man-made infrastructure) would be a good thing.

Mars is a wasted step if you have not changed the method of propulsion - hence it's a death sentence. Solve anti-gravity propulsion first, then we can really talk. Without anti-gravity, we're just a glorified caveman lighting fires.

#5853913

Loobyluggs

2020-11-12 18:17

Reddoguk:

We all know that FTL travel is never going to happen so getting out of this lil solar system is near impossible. You all know the nearest star to ours is Alpha Centauri @ over 4 light years away, it would take over a 100 years to reach it. That's why if aliens ever did turn up here they would need to be so advanced over us that we would be mere ants to them. Earth would recover after a mass extinction event but we need to have a base on the moon or Mars, that way we could re seed after earth heals.

We're a ZOO to 'them'. The last they want is to contaminate the planet and kill all life here, which is what would happen if they sneezed on a butterfly, or something. Go read "The Andromeda Strain" or..."War of the Worlds". Both books dealing with the same thing.

#5854501

UnrealGaming

2020-11-14 09:34

https://cdn.frankerfacez.com/emoticon/381875/1 i knew a new Thunderf00t video was coming [youtube=VrbstnzbhZA]

#5854522

kapu

2020-11-14 12:08

UnrealGaming:

https://cdn.frankerfacez.com/emoticon/381875/1 i knew a new Thunderf00t video was coming [youtube=VrbstnzbhZA]

he is also very wrong on some things ;P He is totaly wrong about pressure inside tube , no idea where he got numbers but official is pressure close to what it is at 15km above ground .

#5854540

The Laughing Ma

2020-11-14 14:08

Francesco:

You are unimaginative, friend. People thought land was flat, and there was no need to go and check.. because we knew. And Earth was at the center of the universe and everyhing turned aroud it... any time spent trying to prove it was time wasted... because well... we already knew. I could go on for hours.

Sorry but people NEVER thought the world was flat, they just had to look at any night sky that had the moon in it to know that the world was not flat. The entire flat Earth thing is a myth of modern making which given this is a discussion about the intelligence of the masses believing or not believing in hoc cum tech nonsense goes a long way to explaining why we now live in a world where 1) People are stupid enough to believe in flat Earth and 2). We go about congratulating people and companies for doing things that have been possible for decades e.g A $400million project that carries a fraction of the people at under half the speed that the Japanese Bullet train does or saying well done to Space X for taking nearly twice as long to do something that NASA did over 6 decades ago.