F1 2020: PC graphics performance benchmark performance analysis with 30 GPUs (DLSS update)

chainy

2020-07-12 05:30

S V S:

I can't even remember buying my 1080 Ti, it has been so long. I still feel very little reason to upgrade because I run a high FPS 1440P monitor, versus 4K. People here give Nvidia a lot of crap but IMO, Nvidia has put out a lot of long-lasting performance parts and it isn't fair to just ignore that fact (recent history: 680, 780 and 1080 Tis). AMD doesn't have many GPUs that remain high-performance for several years.

My vega 56 still rocking great, running warzone 144fps @2k no sweat was a great deal for 350$ 😉 can run most shooters 2k @144hz

#5808096

kanenas

2020-07-12 14:42

Martin5000:

atrocious performance on AMD cards They just not talking to developers.

Yes 5700xt 64 fps in 4k is atrocious

#5808101

kanenas

2020-07-12 14:50

Astyanax:

you buy a 2070 super, you don't get black screens and broken video decoding.

really?Remember this ? Also the black screen issues are fixed and my 5700xt never had any problem

#5808155

Mineria

2020-07-12 19:23

Supertribble:

I just checked on Amazon UK, there you can get a Red Dragon, one of the best 5700XTs, for £390, a Gaming X 2070 Super is £520. They are a different price tier. Under 400 quid for such a great card is good value.

Wrong, it's the Red Devil (triple fan) not the Red Dragon (dual fan), which also is that close to 400 squid. But yes, 5700XT offers plenty of performance for 1440p.

#5808158

Mineria

2020-07-12 19:33

Astyanax:

you buy a 2070 super, you don't get black screens and broken video decoding.

You forgetting that AMD updates their drivers too

#5808262

Astyanax

2020-07-13 03:55

Mineria:

You forgetting that AMD updates their drivers too

which doesn't change much if the cause is actually a busted video processor in the card, which is what things are leaning at.

kanenas:

really?Remember this ?

There are no causes of black screens in nvidia's drivers, all those you see there are problems with the system, decades old cpuid sdk problems or a ryzen bios fault, or windows 10 itself if theres an x79 system mixed in there. (thanks for breaking vtd MSFT)

kanenas:

Also the black screen issues are fixed and my 5700xt never had any problem

Except they aren't.

#5808295

Mineria

2020-07-13 07:40

Astyanax:

which doesn't change much if the cause is actually a busted video processor in the card, which is what things are leaning at.

Updating motherboard bios, manually setting none PCI4 boards manually to use PCIE3 for the slot and updating drivers besides not going to crazy on overclocks doesn't point towards a busted GPU but more some compatibility issues which can be sorted out.

#5809386

Eastcoasthandle

2020-07-15 19:06

Astyanax:

you buy a 2070 super, you don't get black screens and broken video decoding.

A quick google search disagrees with you. Simply type in 'nvidia black screens' and set the range for 1 year. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/317282/rtx-2070-issues-lately/ https://forums.evga.com/RTX-2070-Super-Black-Screen-m3049062.aspx https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/348853/rtx-2060-super-black-screen-issue/ Just to name a few. ------------------------------- As to F1 2020 at 1440p the 5700xt is beating the 2070s and 1080ti...which beats the 2070s. Fighting above it's weight class. Impressive

#5809398

Mineria

2020-07-15 19:34

Eastcoasthandle:

A quick google search disagrees with you. Simply type in 'nvidia black screens' and set the range for 1 year. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/317282/rtx-2070-issues-lately/ https://forums.evga.com/RTX-2070-Super-Black-Screen-m3049062.aspx https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/348853/rtx-2060-super-black-screen-issue/ Just to name a few. ------------------------------- As to F1 2020 at 1440p the 5700xt is beating the 2070s and 1080ti...which beats the 2070s. Fighting above it's weight class. Impressive

Did you read trough them? I doubt, cause if you did you would know that they don't support your claim. The 5700XT is definitely a beast for 1440p, but you won't be able to convince him that AMD is a good idea. 🙂

#5809400

alanm

2020-07-15 19:36

Eastcoasthandle:

A quick google search disagrees with you. Simply type in 'nvidia black screens' and set the range for 1 year. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/317282/rtx-2070-issues-lately/ https://forums.evga.com/RTX-2070-Super-Black-Screen-m3049062.aspx https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/348853/rtx-2060-super-black-screen-issue/ Just to name a few.

These seem to be rare issues with each link no more than a handful of cases which could apply to virtually any card you google. It was a much bigger issue with the 5700xt which AMD acknowledged and 'supposedly' fixed several months later. https://community.amd.com/thread/243837#jive-comments-all The thread was locked by AMD after 2698 posts.

#5809410

Eastcoasthandle

2020-07-15 19:57

Mineria:

Did you read trough them? I doubt, cause if you did you would know that they don't support your claim. The 5700XT is definitely a beast for 1440p, but you won't be able to convince him that AMD is a good idea. 🙂

It supports the notion that 2070s getting black screens. As users are complaining of...black screens 😱

alanm:

These seem to be rare issues with each link no more than a handful of cases which could apply to virtually any card you google. It was a much bigger issue with the 5700xt which AMD acknowledged and 'supposedly' fixed several months later. https://community.amd.com/thread/243837#jive-comments-all The thread was locked by AMD after 2698 posts.

All I need to show is that the 2070s also gets black screens. Remember, the claim is that they don't. Anyway, nice admission. 😛

#5809411

kanenas

2020-07-15 19:59

alanm:

These seem to be rare issues with each link no more than a handful of cases which could apply to virtually any card you google. It was a much bigger issue with the 5700xt which AMD acknowledged and 'supposedly' fixed several months later. https://community.amd.com/thread/243837#jive-comments-all The thread was locked by AMD after 2698 posts.

And again

#5809421

alanm

2020-07-15 20:19

kanenas:

And again

Screen shot but no link to any massive 1000+ post thread? The search algorithm could just have gone haywire with 'black' or 'screen' terms separately.

Eastcoasthandle:

All I need to show is that the 2070s also gets black screens. Remember, the claim is that they don't. Anyway, nice admission. 😛

So you are not accepting that one side had a far more pervasive issue with the problem, just that it occurred on both cards regardless of how lopsided the numbers were. In which case you can list every GPU ever made and say it also had black screen occurrences. 🙄 p.s dont get me wrong, I think the black screen issue with 5700xt only involved a minority of users but due to the large numbers sold also had a large number of reports with the issue. Still think the 5700xt is a good card for the money today (with this issue largely resolved).

#5809539

Mineria

2020-07-16 07:16

Eastcoasthandle:

All I need to show is that the 2070s also gets black screens. Remember, the claim is that they don't. Anyway, nice admission. 😛

What I meant is that it seems only 1 out of the 3 links could be a black screen issue with an RTX2070, last link was an RTX 2060 btw. I fully understand what your saying, of course you can find RTX 2070's that black screen, would be weird if those didn't exist and also weird to claim such. Also, most people wouldn't even bother to post about it but simply just RMA the card.

#5809572

Astyanax

2020-07-16 08:39

alanm:

It was a much bigger issue with the 5700xt which AMD acknowledged and 'supposedly' fixed several months later.

Still not entirely fixed, or amd wouldn't be tracking reports still (as stated in the release notes) This needs to be downvoted / corrected anytime it comes up https://community.amd.com/thread/243837#comment-2932482 This key combo does not reset the driver in any shape or form, and I have confirmation of that from the DirectX team.

kanenas:

And again

Meaningless search, also FYI, ~~AMD~~ Tech comanies in general have toxic marketing partners that create one post accounts and drop threads of this nature and others, assuming nothing has chanced since the late 2000's. Real people looking for answers return to follow up on any replies, most of those have had a reply and the op is never heard from again, I would know, i've read all of them and replied with steps on pinpointing the actual source (ps, its not in the drivers.)

#5810778

Supertribble

2020-07-20 20:01

Mineria:

Wrong, it's the Red Devil (triple fan) not the Red Dragon (dual fan), which also is that close to 400 squid. But yes, 5700XT offers plenty of performance for 1440p.

well I got the price correct anyway.

#5810824

Mineria

2020-07-21 00:15

Supertribble:

well I got the price correct anyway.

:D Yup, just pointed it out since it would just be a bit sad if someone went for the dragon instead of the devil which is the most praised and recommended 5700XT throughout reviews.

#5810911

alanm

2020-07-21 10:52

rikkiepc:

Really, no one noticed the aufull banding in cutscenes? At least I'm not the only one... https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathStranding/comments/hrujld/extreme_color_banding_posterization_on_pc/?sort=new

Wrong thread. Secondly you cannot have HDR 10-bit + 4k (4:4:4) on HDMI 2.0 without banding (it will default to 8-bit). Need to wait for HDMI 2.1 GPUs for TVs or use DP1.4 on monitors.

#5814768

Venix

2020-08-04 17:27

S V S:

I don't remember the 290x being better than the 780 Ti? None of the other AMD cards you named ever were high-performance GFX cards for multiple years. The 1080 Ti is 3 and a half years old and is still one of the best GFX cards money can buy. AMD is just now releasing cards that can compete with it. That was the point of my comment. Not that AMD doesn't have good cards (it does). But AMD hasn't exactly released many cards that remained at the top of the performance charts several years later. The 1080 Ti has ended up an amazing buy.

Are you kidding ? You mentioned about Nvidia longevity the 680 and 780 where one of the worse aging gpus in history especially the 680 and the whole Kepler architecture the 7970 ended up much faster and the 290x is still performing around the 480 level of performance while the 780ti often does not even get half the fps , now about the 1080ti no argument there 1080 ti was most likely the best card you could buy on lunch the last decade ! But talking about longevity on the 680 and 780 ... maybe in a parralel dimension.

#5821570

nizzen

2020-08-25 12:20

Venix:

Are you kidding ? You mentioned about Nvidia longevity the 680 and 780 where one of the worse aging gpus in history especially the 680 and the whole Kepler architecture the 7970 ended up much faster and the 290x is still performing around the 480 level of performance while the 780ti often does not even get half the fps , now about the 1080ti no argument there 1080 ti was most likely the best card you could buy on lunch the last decade ! But talking about longevity on the 680 and 780 ... maybe in a parralel dimension.

7970 drivers was pretty bad the first 3 years. I went from 2x 7970 to 2x gtx680. It was way better due to 7970 lacked Frame pacing. It took 3 years to get it for 79 series. Benchmarknumbers was good/high, but it was pretty much unplayable in many games compared to gtx 680. 780/780ti overclocked like crazy, so it was pretty good "longevity". I had 780 and 780 evga classified, and they overclocked up to 1500mhz on water. 1250-1300mhz was normal on 780ti with water,compared to 900mhz? Stock