XenthorX:

Got some links to follow the case? Haven't checked in a while

definfinite:

There's that misleading marketing notion that it's suddenly 'going to look like a rendered movie'. Offline rendering and realtime graphics are completely different animals although both are just smoke and mirrors. It's not just the lighting transport that makes a fully pathtraced image look good compared to real-time graphics. It's rasterization vs full pathtracing, a real time optimized approach vs optimized precision, plus the amount of data throughput per frame available.

It's not that they arent willing to do proper raytracing, it's that proper pathtracing at 4K 60fps would require multiple orders of magnitude more computation and data transfer than what's possible in the current raster-based manifestation of real-time raytracing effects on current gen hardware. While a game runs at 30 or 60 or whatever fps with the requirement of both static and dynamic objects needed to be fitting in the VRAM, a current full screen path-traced VFX shot (a single cut) from a similarly hyped-up movie require dozens of hours of computation on a hundred cpu threads per a single frame and shitton of data (think hundreds of gigabytes of data for textures and meshes, plus when needed, hundreds of gigabytes for baked effects simulations life water, fire and smoke, physics sims like destruction and such). Plus the character animations are melticulously pushed to look absolutely amazing. Also in VFX, they usually do not render full frames, instead they are rendering in passes and composite the rendered passes together, so to have more control on the final look and be able to use 2D trickery to boost image quality and content to the maximum that's feasible.

Anyhow, image rendering is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to desired (or marketed, or both) full immersive photorealism. Imagine a photorealistic environment where your physics simulations, collision detetion etc. are still low res (because that would also require a lot of computation and data storage and throughput), making the usual funky realtime physics bugs. Or a photorealistic static environment where water acts funky. Etc the list goes on. It's just completely different to do stuff in a realtime environment vs doing everything following a strict script within a given camera.

AMD says it has "worked closely with Epic to optimize TSR features on Radeon powered systems. A standard feature of UE5, TSR is enabled for all GPUs and provides state-of-the-art upscaling not just on PC, but on PlayStation 5, and Xbox Series X/S, too." The freedom to work across all the common APIs and hardware—Nvidia GPUs included, of course—will certainly be a massive boon to Temporal Super Resolution.

ThEcLiT:

Remember Mr.Jensen's Metro Exodus RTX introduction? "Everythings look darker, way more darker, pitch black, no global illumination, this is raytracing" . Now Metro Exodus have suddenly added RTX Global illumination... UE5 will be the main focus of most AAA titles in the near future, also smaller developers. Get ready for 4000/5000 series GPUs special features... No wonder AMD did not rush raytracing. Amd knew these things, and other company milked people really good, and will milk more.

At GDC 2019, 4A Games walked attendees through the process of adding global illumination to Metro Exodus on PC. “Ray lengths are fifty-times larger. We are getting an unbelievable amount of rays per-second,” explained Sergei Karmalsky, Art Director at 4A Games. “What’s also important is that we are getting the pixel-perfect details. We are not limited by the scale of scenes.”

Hardware Ray Tracing Hardware Ray Tracing supports a larger range of geometry types than Software Ray Tracing, in particular it supports tracing against skinned meshes. Hardware Ray Tracing also scales up better to higher qualities — it intersects against the actual triangles and has the option to evaluate lighting at the ray hit instead of the lower quality Surface Cache. However, Hardware Ray Tracing has significant scene setup cost and currently cannot scale to scenes with more than 100,000 instances. Dynamically deforming meshes, like skinned meshes, also incur a large cost to update the Ray Tracing acceleration structures each frame, proportional to the number of skinned triangles. For static meshes using Nanite, Hardware Ray Tracing can only operate on the Proxy Mesh generated from Nanite's Proxy Triangle Percent in the Static Mesh Editor settings. These Proxy Meshes can be visualized with the console command r.Nanite 0. Screen Traces are used to cover the mismatch between the full triangle mesh rendered by Nanite and the Proxy Mesh being ray traced by Lumen. However, in some cases, the mismatch is too large to be hidden. In these cases, raising the Proxy Triangle Percent can reduce incorrect self-intersection artifacts.

ThEcLiT:

Wow! Lumen also looks fantastic, we dont even need RT cores.

ThEcLiT:

Temporal Super Resolution AMD says it has "worked closely with Epic to optimize TSR features on Radeon powered systems. A standard feature of UE5, TSR is enabled for all GPUs and provides state-of-the-art upscaling not just on PC, but on PlayStation 5, and Xbox Series X/S, too."

Noisiv:

I wonder how many people get this wrong 😱

"Temporal Super Resoluton" is an Unreal algorithm/solution. AMD's thing is called "FidelityFX Super Resolution" (FSR) if I recall correctly.

tsunami231:

hah I would saw 200TB and been like pass dont even have 2 tb drive in my pc

KissSh0t:

I had to highlight that color yellow to be able to see it.... it's so hard to read.

Airbud:

that's your opinion?.... https://www.marketwatch.com/story/in-the-epic-vs-apple-court-fight-theres-one-clear-winner-11622030554

jeffmorris:

I didn't expect UE5 to be released as Early Access today. I thought that there was going to be a video about UE5's new features.