I've ordered a CPU block prefilled, a 360mm rad prefilled, and GPU Block prefilled also. This could potentially revolutionise water cooling, giving people a full modular loop with custom water cooling components. Its basically bridging the gap between AIO and custom loop without the hassle of getting the correct fixtures and fittings. Think about it, if you want to add in a GPU, no problem just buy a new GPU block and it will fit into the same loop. If you upgrade your GPU, no need to drain the loop and add in the parts, same goes for adding in more radiators, etc, etc. Mine should all ship on Dec 1st so should be with me a few days later, I shall post pics. EDIT: The only thing I think they could do is add in the option for clear tubing and coloured fluid.

Finally! I remember when they said release in spring.., better late then never 😀 240mm variant would be perfect for my case. So, EK-MLC Phoenix 240 + EK-MLC Phoenix CPU module, hmm.. Guess we're back ~230€, like by Predator release

i can't wait until they ship this kit to the u.s. as a fan of cpu's/gpu's at ambient temps or slightly above, i'm stoked - i can prefill extra reservoirs and radiators to add to the system...with probably less than 10 minutes to get the extra air bubbles out. if they offer a pre-filled TR4 block i'm so on it.;);)

That a bit to expensive at over $400 US dollar when other all-in-one kit is way cheaper the Fluid Gaming line at $240.

I'm curious to know how long a liquid cooling setup like this would last, 4 years (or more preferably) no maintenance or parts failing? I'm updating my system soon and was set on getting an air cooler, but now I'm thinking this could be an option. I just want to basically set and forget until my next CPU, apart from 1 or 2 year GPU updates.

drac:

I'm curious to know how long a liquid cooling setup like this would last, 4 years (or more preferably) no maintenance or parts failing? I'm updating my system soon and was set on getting an air cooler, but now I'm thinking this could be an option. I just want to basically set and forget until my next CPU, apart from 1 or 2 year GPU updates.

I all ready had mine well pass 4 year in fact in 5 more months it will be 5 years with my Corsair Hydro Series H60 Water Cooler which has never been touch in all this time and still keeping at or below 75 at full bore and my system runs 24/7 to and yes I do blow it out every 3/4 months darn dust.

drac:

I'm curious to know how long a liquid cooling setup like this would last, 4 years (or more preferably) no maintenance or parts failing? I'm updating my system soon and was set on getting an air cooler, but now I'm thinking this could be an option. I just want to basically set and forget until my next CPU, apart from 1 or 2 year GPU updates.

hey Drac, if you're worried about ekwb... don't. their quality control is very good. my 980ti block, pump, and q6600 block are all ekwb and are pretty darn old (the cpu block and radiator is the oldest...like 9 years). i love their quality.

sammarbella:

When EK meets Lego = watercooling for the masses! Proper fittings and possible leakage are the main problems of custom watercooling loops for newbies if that's solved EK just opened a flow of new customers.

Yeah maybe but having built a custom acrylic water cooling loop I can say that my next system is going to either be a full air cooled system or I am going to go with something like this. The real reason is simple it's easy. I've been there and done the whole custom loop thing and I am now just a bit too old and a bit too lazy to be dealing with getting the right custom coloured, custom angled correctly knurled fitting to make that tiny section of my loop just above the rad look just right.

hey Drac, if you're worried about ekwb... don't.

I would second that my loop is full Ekwb, pump, res, cpu, gpu and two rads the only bit I am not sure is ekwb is the pre installed motherboard cooler. I built this system over 2 years ago and haven't had to do a thing to it, apart from top the res up due to normal evaporation (it's a really small res)

Sounds good on paper , but good luck with all the flow restrictions that quick disconnect brings ( I highly advised against using them , very restrictive item as per my own experiences ). Absolutely nothing beats a well thought out , well plan , proper water custom loop. ;) http://i64.tinypic.com/35k3f5j.jpg

chispy:

Sounds good on paper , but good luck with all the flow restrictions that quick disconnect brings ( I highly advised against using them , very restrictive item as per my own experiences ). Absolutely nothing beats a well thought out , well plan , proper water custom loop.

That just Fud, You do know that quick disconnect have been around for min min years my guest is has more to do with the water pump impeller design and proper size play key role here.

SHS:

That just Fud, You do know that quick disconnect have been around for min min years my guest is has more to do with the water pump impeller design and proper size play key role here.

Not FUD , inform yourself and then talk to me about proper flow in a H2O loop 😉 , go ahead and do yourself a favor read , read and read about water cooling until you understand how it works and the dinamics behind it. I have been doing this for many , many years as well as i was a water cooling reviewer for Swiftech.

D3M1G0D:

As mentioned above, I went with multiple quick disconnects in a prior loop, and suffered low flow problems. Nothing wrong with my pump or tubing.

I believe SHS member does not have any idea what he is talking about and he is just mumbling , guessing and making the wrong assumptions. D3M1G0D i have done the same as you and i did tested a lot of quick disconnect on different custom loops and i always ended up with the same problems ( Flow Restriction ) , very low flow. Regards: Chispy

chispy:

I believe SHS member does not have any idea what he is talking about and he is just mumbling , guessing and making the wrong assumptions. D3M1G0D i have done the same as you and i did tested a lot of quick disconnect on different custom loops and i always ended up with the same problems ( Flow Restriction ) , very low flow. Regards: Chispy

Your making the wrong assumptions, Yes I do know more then you young pups I have done this min years of mechanical work from tractor, skid steer, snow plow, roll back, etc, etc and commercial plumbing where we used high flow hydraulic couplers

SHS:

Your making the wrong assumptions, Yes I do know more then you young pups I have done this min years of mechanical work from tractor, skid steer, snow plow, roll back, etc, etc and commercial plumbing where we used high flow hydraulic couplers

A whole different matter ( plummer , mechanical work on farm equipment 😀 , etc... ) , it is not the same , you are soo wrong 🙄 , water cooling for PCs is a whole different ball game you do not know anything about. And yes i do know what i'm talking about as my expertise in cooling PC components is undeniable , be it air cooling , water cooling , phase change cooling , dry ice cooling and liquid nitrogen. Need some proof ? oh looky looky here 😀 : One of my interviews on The Overclocker Magazine read pages 6 thru 9 and see for yourself if i'm really saying the truth. https://issuu.com/theoverclocker/docs/theoverclocker_issue_23?viewMode=doublePage oh looky looky here 😀 one of my many reviews i did for Swiftech Water Cooling Company: Scroll down to the last one at this Swiftech.com link front page: It start with ( Chispy's in-depth user review ): http://www.swiftech.com/H220-X.aspx#tab5 oh looky looky here 😀 My hwbot profile and check out my achievements , i was into the top ten overclockers in the whole planet : http://hwbot.org/user/chispy/ If that is not enough , guess who is the head moderator at kingpingcooling.com who specialized in PC cooling 😉 : http://forum.kingpincooling.com/index.php yep you guessed right is Me 😀. Now that you get to see where i have been and what i have done in the water cooling community or / PC cooling community overall you can grasp the idea of the vast knowledge that i have gather thru more than 13 years and you dare to tell me that i write FUD and that you know more than us Pups , errhh i do not think so. Now show me your accomplishments on the PC water cooling community o_O , errhh ... exactly !

It is the same basic principle with any liquid kind cooling just like with gas or diesel engine, oils and heat transfer size matter on quick disconnect and proper pump design for building fast flow matter. Hmmm about liquid nitrogen on overclocker which is not useful and am I supposed to be impressed by that ?, I think not as it not very useful in real world but never the less good job.

SHS:

It is the same basic principle with any liquid kind cooling just like with gas or diesel engine, oils and heat transfer size matter on quick disconnect and proper pump design for building fast flow matter. Hmmm about liquid nitrogen on overclocker which is not useful and am I supposed to be impressed by that ?, I think not as it not very useful in real world but never the less good job.

I think EK have a good idea and intentions , we just have to wait and see what kind of problems people will run into once they start adding more and more components by quick disconnect. I do not want to derail this thread anymore , to each it's own ! My last post here and i have prove my point already. Have a good day SHS. Regards: Chispy

chispy:

I think EK have a good idea and intentions , we just have to wait and see what kind of problems people will run into once they start adding more and more components by quick disconnect. I do not want to derail this thread anymore , to each it's own ! My last post here and i have prove my point already. Have a good day SHS. Regards: Chispy

That what I'm kind of hope for, you to Chispy have a good day.

SHS:

I all ready had mine well pass 4 year in fact in 5 more months it will be 5 years with my Corsair Hydro Series H60 Water Cooler which has never been touch in all this time and still keeping at or below 75 at full bore and my system runs 24/7 to and yes I do blow it out every 3/4 months darn dust.

D3M1G0D:

I did something like this a couple of years ago - I got a whole bunch of quick disconnect fittings and placed them between each component in the loop. I think it made the loop too long though and it began suffering from low flow issues. I've now gone back to a simpler setup, with QC fitting only on the radiator (it's the only component that you regularly need to clean).

tunejunky:

hey Drac, if you're worried about ekwb... don't. their quality control is very good. my 980ti block, pump, and q6600 block are all ekwb and are pretty darn old (the cpu block and radiator is the oldest...like 9 years). i love their quality.

The Laughing Ma:

Yeah maybe but having built a custom acrylic water cooling loop I can say that my next system is going to either be a full air cooled system or I am going to go with something like this. The real reason is simple it's easy. I've been there and done the whole custom loop thing and I am now just a bit too old and a bit too lazy to be dealing with getting the right custom coloured, custom angled correctly knurled fitting to make that tiny section of my loop just above the rad look just right. I would second that my loop is full Ekwb, pump, res, cpu, gpu and two rads the only bit I am not sure is ekwb is the pre installed motherboard cooler. I built this system over 2 years ago and haven't had to do a thing to it, apart from top the res up due to normal evaporation (it's a really small res)

I appreciate the help from you all. Thank you. I'm not intending on adding anything more then a CPU and 1 GPU, so I'm guessing the low flow problem mentioned would not effect me. Huge might here, but I could add another GPU. Regardless, EK look like the one to go for.

I was interested in the Predator as the price was decent (sub 250$), but im not willing to spend that kinda cash. Especially when other (non asetek design) AIOs are going for half that. The 240 from arctic is sub 100$, the CM MasterLiquid Pro 240 is 120$, and the Eisbaer (Alphacool) offering QCs and the option to add a gpu, is less than 150$. @SHS i started building custom loops in 2006 with the rads in an (separate) tote, with modded aquarium pumps (Eheim), and got industrial QC (lots of suppliers for pharma/chem plants around Frankfurt) so i could take the loop apart for transport when going to lan's. So far, i yet to see a QC that has the same inner diameter, as the hoses that are being used. Unless its the same, you're restricting flow, no matter what. And just cranking up flowrate isnt a good idea (almost all the time), as it negatively affects cooling (water cant pick up the heat properly) and might even be noisier (pump). And no, hydraulics on a tractor are not the same, sure you have a fluid that gets pumped around, but thats about it for being "the same". Not when it comes to actual use. And compare the pump pressure/head/flow rates on LC systems to stuff used on cars/trucks/tractors...

fry178:

I was interested in the Predator as the price was decent (sub 250$), but im not willing to spend that kinda cash. Especially when other (non asetek design) AIOs are going for half that. The 240 from arctic is sub 100$, the CM MasterLiquid Pro 240 is 120$, and the Eisbaer (Alphacool) offering QCs and the option to add a gpu, is less than 150$. @SHS i started building custom loops in 2006 with the rads in an (separate) tote, with modded aquarium pumps (Eheim), and got industrial QC (lots of suppliers for pharma/chem plants around Frankfurt) so i could take the loop apart for transport when going to lan's. So far, i yet to see a QC that has the same inner diameter, as the hoses that are being used. Unless its the same, you're restricting flow, no matter what. And just cranking up flowrate isnt a good idea (almost all the time), as it negatively affects cooling (water cant pick up the heat properly) and might even be noisier (pump). And no, hydraulics on a tractor are not the same, sure you have a fluid that gets pumped around, but thats about it for being "the same". Not when it comes to actual use. And compare the pump pressure/head/flow rates on LC systems to stuff used on cars/trucks/tractors...

Yes do recall the days of aquarium pumps but they where not idea for PC That why you over size the piping Let say your inside diameter is 10mm without any quick disconnect as standard size for best over all efficiency and let say it pump about 20gpm, so yes some restricting flow are there that due to the barb fitting did not factor in fitting thickness size and that over lapping the hose So in order to match the above you need bump up your inside diameter to let say 12mm then dimensions with flush face quick disconnect can match the same 10mm flow thru with less restricting in order maintain the same over all 20gpm. Most water pump housing have huge gap clearance from the impeller so they don't flow well as they should with restricting creating same back pressure you know what pump cavitation is right. Note: hydraulics used quick disconnect that what I refer to and they can have the same problem as well and there pump types are made for building high pressure or forcing liquid up hill how do think they get water up to top floor in skyscraper in holding tanks.