Dramatic Radeon RX 6800 availability, even worse than RTX 3080 launch

Aura89

2020-11-20 05:40

tty8k:

I meant Australia, based on those posts. Still, rumors or not, numbers might be different, I still don't believe their crap. There was little to no stock everyone knows it.

An entire continent is very misleading way to signify the importance of how many GPUs any place should get. Land mass or georgraphy does not = retail importance. The entirety of Australia has almost half the population California. California is not a continent, and is in fact about 19 times smaller then australia. As well, california is more tech-oriented then most of australia. But by your notion, Australia should have gotten a lot of cards compared to california, because "it's an entire continent" Your notion literally is situated just to make something seem like a big deal when it isn't. Nor do i see where you have come up with the number 16.

#5857035

Neo Cyrus

2020-11-20 05:57

sykozis:

Fortunately, I'm waiting on RX5700 replacement and the 3060Ti to launch....so I still got at least a couple months before being completely disappointed.

Upgrade to 1440p 144Hz/165Hz so you can suffer with the rest of us and require a high end card. AMD for months spread rumours behind the scenes that there'd be stock, intentionally getting this info "leaked" so every YouTuber has constantly been saying there'd be stock. I'd have probably had my 3080 last month if it weren't for AMD's lies. If I knew getting a 6800 XT would be impossible I would have back ordered a 3080 on launch day or as soon as back orders were allowed.

#5857043

0blivious

2020-11-20 07:19

Neo Cyrus:

Upgrade to 1440p 144Hz/165Hz so you can suffer with the rest of us and require a high end card.

And a lot of us adopted ultrawide too. 1440p ultrawide (3440x1440@144hz) is effectively "3K" in pixels. After the giddy high FPS years of owning 1080p@144, the quest to reach over 100FPS again is quite real. I grabbed a 5700XT as a stopgap (2 weeks after upgrading monitor), it at least keeps me above 60 in AAA titles. It's a pretty good card and it's barely enough. My only viable upgrade options all cost $600-$1500. Having never spent more than $450 (once), I'm not antsy to pull the trigger on that. The monitor battle between real estate, clarity and speed is hard to win on all fronts. (shrug) I'll live. The decision to upgrade monitor resolution has a pretty dramatic impact on framerates, and any desire to return to 100+ FPS has a dramatic impact on one's wallet. Sure is pretty though.

#5857181

AuerX

2020-11-20 14:40

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#5857185

mackintosh

2020-11-20 14:57

Bottom line is any goodwill they may have earned by doing a proper launch as opposed to nvidia's went out the window. They bungled it completely. It's just as shambolic as their competition, and when you're playing catchup, that's akin to yet again shooting yourself in the foot. They certainly haven't won any fans.

#5857188

Denial

2020-11-20 15:00

No one is going to care about the shortages in a year. They didn't lose anything lol

#5857196

Barry J

2020-11-20 15:16

pegasus1:

Ive given up waiting for the new AMD CPU's and GPU's, ive bought myself a new Civic Type R GT instead, its faster than a 3090 and costs less.

I bet you will clean it more ....

#5857200

mackintosh

2020-11-20 15:18

Denial:

No one is going to care about the shortages in a year. They didn't lose anything lol

Of course. But I'm talking about here and now. It's a wasted opportunity, even more so considering they have a decent product and there were a lot of people ready to buy it, especially considering nvidia's supply woes. Who knows what's going to happen in a year. For all I know, I could be dead by then.

#5857213

emperorsfist

2020-11-20 15:31

ZXRaziel:

I am more concerned about how many are reporting coil whine noise , I hate that , hopefully I will be able to find a card that is silent in this regard .

I hate that as well, and it's what is turning me off this generation (along with the shortages). If I'm to pay for an expensive card, I don¨t want it to squeak when it's doing "just" 60fps. I've had that with my GTX 970 and it took a year to "bake in". It definitely didn't "fade in among the fan noise in a closed case. Seeing that both brands seem to suffer from this, I'd rather wait for some refresh that does not exhibit this.

#5857217

H83

2020-11-20 15:42

emperorsfist:

I hate that as well, and it's what is turning me off this generation (along with the shortages). If I'm to pay for an expensive card, I don¨t want it to squeak when it's doing "just" 60fps. I've had that with my GTX 970 and it took a year to "bake in". It definitely didn't "fade in among the fan noise in a closed case. Seeing that both brands seem to suffer from this, I'd rather wait for some refresh that does not exhibit this.

This is also that´s causing me great concern. I thought coil whine was an issue from poorly built GPUs/components, but now it seems something that exists in every card, why??? I also don´t want to pay a large amount of money to have a card that squeeks every time i use it to game. The only time i had an issue with coil whine was with a PSU that i returned during warranty, and they gave a new and better one right way. Are GPU sellers going to do the same???

#5857225

emperorsfist

2020-11-20 15:54

H83:

This is also that´s causing me great concern. I thought coil whine was an issue from poorly built GPUs/components, but now it seems something that exists in every card, why??? I also don´t want to pay a large amount of money to have a card that squeeks every time i use it to game. The only time i had an issue with coil whine was with a PSU that i returned during warranty, and they gave a new and better one right way. Are GPU sellers going to do the same???

Poor capacitors or coils can exhibit this when under stress, but I had hoped that poor parts wouldn't be present in 800$ GPUs...

#5857236

Lordhawkwind

2020-11-20 16:23

Denial:

We went over this. It wouldn't have changed anything. It would have just delayed the people that already got their card (me) and there still would have been a shortage at the later launch date. It's not like delaying allows them to make more cards then not delaying. I also don't really care for how you "feel" about the demand issue - we have data on it. It points to what Nvidia has been saying, demand is outstripping the supply. AMD is saying the same thing now. Nvidia's financials show the same thing. It makes sense logically (everyone I know wants these cards), just looking at google trend data shows that more people are searching for Nvidia 3000, RDNA2, AMD 5000 series CPUs then every previous launch. Most people I know are working from home, they want a console. They want a new gaming PC. Etc. How do you explain a massive revenue increase from Nvidia if they simply aren't selling any cards? Suddenly, two years after launch, everyone wants a 2000 series? lol. What's also funny to me is that I personally know three people with 3080s - so for a card that's considered a "paper launch" its weird that I know so many people that have them.

I think you're forgetting that Ampere was first launced some time ago as a data centre card where the margins are huge. You're also forgetting they make the GPU for the Nintendo switch which has been selling very well. And as someone else has pointed out they released the 2060/70/80 supers at the same price as the older cards but effectively moving them up a segment. This is a huge revenue generator as this is where 98% of gamers exist. Whilst the margins on the 3080/90 are nice they're halo products and most of the sales are made in the lower tiers which Nvidia haven't produced a card for yet. So it's highly unlikely the 30 series had anything to do with the increase in revenue. Generally speaking sales figures start to impact on bottom line in the Q2 after launch especially if the launch was late in the quarter. So, with regards to availability are you saying three people is a big number now wow, interesting.

#5857291

Neo Cyrus

2020-11-20 19:22

ZXRaziel:

Wrong , everyone was warning us that the supply will not meet the demand , I have no idea where does this nonsense come from . And it has been like this for years , new releases always had initial shortages , this time it’s worse because there are more people sitting at home not allowed to travel and enjoy doing much outdoors, so more people want to do gaming , what the hell did we expect?

Don't call me a liar Trump. Everything I saw said that, I have no idea where your self righteousness comes from.

#5857299

alanm

2020-11-20 19:44

I view the shortages (for both Nvidia and AMD) as a blessing in disguise. I prefer cards to be out for several weeks, months so we get a more through understanding of their strengths, weaknesses, faults so we know which are the best to choose from. Some early buyers of the 2080ti got defective cards (space invaders artifacts) resulting from a faulty batch. Some buyers of certain cards (5700xt) may have had driver issues (black screens), that took several months to resolve. The longer you hold out, the better chance you get a satisfactory card, usually.

#5857404

H83

2020-11-20 23:00

Fox2232:

Coil whine is result of big current spikes. Sure, Capacitors could reduce its effect. But better build quality does good job at dampening sound. One can use thermal glue like substance around affected components. But considering temperature and money paid...

You and emperorfirst have explained why this happens but this sort of issue is not acceptable on GPUs that cost much more than a modern consoles... GPU makers should be embarrassed by this problem...

#5857420

sykozis

2020-11-21 00:36

Neo Cyrus:

Upgrade to 1440p 144Hz/165Hz so you can suffer with the rest of us and require a high end card. AMD for months spread rumours behind the scenes that there'd be stock, intentionally getting this info "leaked" so every YouTuber has constantly been saying there'd be stock. I'd have probably had my 3080 last month if it weren't for AMD's lies. If I knew getting a 6800 XT would be impossible I would have back ordered a 3080 on launch day or as soon as back orders were allowed.

If I were going to "upgrade" resolutions....I wouldn't stop at 1440P. I'd just plug my PC into the 4K TV that's sitting next to it. Quite frankly, none of my monitors is even a year old yet. One purchased in December 2019, one purchased in January 2020 and one purchased in February 2020. All 3 are 1080P with 2 being TN 144hz and one being a VA 75hz panel. All 3 are Freesync monitors. I'm set on monitors for the next couple years. I just need the 3060Ti for my son's computer so he can play Minecraft RTX. Both of my TN 144hz panels are on NVidia's "G-Sync Compatible" list. I stuck with 1080P because it's a resolution I'm comfortable with and it's easy to deal with on a 24" panel.

#5857477

Valken

2020-11-21 09:01

I went shopping with a mate to look at both CPU and GPU last night. Zero 6800 or XT arrived in our region. ZERO. 3080 sold out, but here were some 3070 and 3090 at inflated prices. I found a 5800x for 25 USD over MSRP, his hunt for a 5950x was insane at 200 USD more, so we gave up because without the GPU, we would have crippled our systems with the old GPUs. We'll wait for the next shipments or spring + price reductions to go full RED team or 3080ti if that comes out. It had the effect of shifting our goal post so we can spend some of that PC upgrade money on family for Christmas to make up for a crappy 2020.