Don't panic but I am a time traveler and I came from the future (again!) to tell you that AMD cards are still out of stock in 2024 - the performance charts look nice though...

Like I said, 2020 is an unprecedented year, with the pandemic affecting all walks of life. The demand for computers and peripherals has far outstripped supply due to the sheer number of people now working or learning from home. There is only so much manufacturing capacity available to fulfill that demand, and enthusiast hardware isn't their priority, because that's not where most of the money is. I wouldn't be surprised if it took several years for things to go back to normal.

People is forgetting that now we have the Criptocurrencies market that is ready to explode in 2021... this cards is perfect to miners, because of it we will have difficults to buy VGAs nowadays....

Maybe it was a bad idea by all companies involved (AMD/NVidia) to decide to release new GPUS/CPUs/Consoles in middle of this global pandemic. I mean WTF did they think was going to happen. Unfortunately for hardware manufacturers, it is not as easy to scale up and suddenly sell billions instead of millions of copies of latest product like a software "manufacturer" such as EA can (since what they sell are all virtual copies and infinitely scalable)

geogan:

Maybe it was a bad idea by all companies involved (AMD/NVidia) to decide to release new GPUS/CPUs/Consoles in middle of this global pandemic. I mean WTF did they think was going to happen. Unfortunately for hardware manufacturers, it is not as easy to scale up and suddenly sell billions instead of millions of copies of latest product like a software "manufacturer" such as EA can (since what they sell are all virtual copies and infinitely scalable)

You realize these products are in like two-three year development cycles right? It's not like when AMD started designing the 6800XT in 2018 they were like "HEY GUYS MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT A YEAR BECAUSE 2020 IS GOING TO BE A REAL SHITSHOW". It's locked in. The ~$500M contract with TSMC to fabricate all this shit AMD is developing was signed probably late last year. Can't say "sorry guys, please pause it because our customers might be upset that products will be difficult to get" There is also no evidence that these products are having supply chain problems. People keep saying that - but Nvidia's quarterly earnings show a 7.5% increase over the forecast. So they beat their expectations and their expectations were already 25% over Turing launch. The products are selling fine - it's just that a fuck ton of gamers are sitting at home because of COVID wanting to play games.

This round between (imaginary) cards from Nvidia and AMD is the best ever! Nvidia released some powerful and expensive cards that almost don´t exist and what was AMD´s answer? They also released some powerful and expensive cards that very few can buy! Now all we need is for Intel to step up and also release their fantasy cards for the party to be complete! I almost feel sorry for anyone who needs a GPU right now...

Denial:

You realize these products are in like two-three year development cycles right? It's not like when AMD started designing the 6800XT in 2018 they were like "HEY GUYS MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT A YEAR BECAUSE 2020 IS GOING TO BE A REAL SHITSHOW". It's locked in. The ~$500M contract with TSMC to fabricate all this crap AMD is developing was signed probably late last year. Can't say "sorry guys, please pause it because our customers might be upset that products will be difficult to get" There is also no evidence that these products are having supply chain problems. People keep saying that - but Nvidia's quarterly earnings show a 7.5% increase over the forecast. So they beat their expectations and their expectations were already 25% over Turing launch. The products are selling fine - it's just that a frack ton of gamers are sitting at home because of COVID wanting to play games.

Nvidia and AMD could have hold on their releases for a couple of months in order to build some decent stock instead of releasing the few cards they had lying around... And i have a very hard time believing that this issue is being cause by higher demand than expected because if that was the case then stores wouldn´t be complaining about the fact that most of them are not receiving cards to sell!!! If the 3000 was such an huge hit stores would be complaining that they already sold out everything they had and need much more cards to sell... Also, Nvidia probably beat expectations thanks to the sales of their 2000 series because the 3000 series only have been for sale for around a month max, with very low quantities available.

Nvidia doesn't break down its gaming segment revenue by product. There's no telling where the increase came from. For all we know, it's from their mobile chips.

H83:

Nvidia and AMD could have hold on their releases for a couple of months in order to build some decent stock instead of releasing the few cards they had lying around... And i have a very hard time believing that this issue is being cause by higher demand than expected because if that was the case then stores wouldn´t be complaining about the fact that most of them are not receiving cards to sell!!! If the 3000 was such an huge hit stores would be complaining that they already sold out everything they had and need much more cards to sell... Also, Nvidia probably beat expectations thanks to the sales of their 2000 series because the 3000 series only have been for sale for around a month max, with very low quantities available.

We went over this. It wouldn't have changed anything. It would have just delayed the people that already got their card (me) and there still would have been a shortage at the later launch date. It's not like delaying allows them to make more cards then not delaying. I also don't really care for how you "feel" about the demand issue - we have data on it. It points to what Nvidia has been saying, demand is outstripping the supply. AMD is saying the same thing now. Nvidia's financials show the same thing. It makes sense logically (everyone I know wants these cards), just looking at google trend data shows that more people are searching for Nvidia 3000, RDNA2, AMD 5000 series CPUs then every previous launch. Most people I know are working from home, they want a console. They want a new gaming PC. Etc. How do you explain a massive revenue increase from Nvidia if they simply aren't selling any cards? Suddenly, two years after launch, everyone wants a 2000 series? lol. What's also funny to me is that I personally know three people with 3080s - so for a card that's considered a "paper launch" its weird that I know so many people that have them.

Denial:

We went over this. It wouldn't have changed anything. It would have just delayed the people that already got their card (me) and there still would have been a shortage at the later launch date. It's not like delaying allows them to make more cards then not delaying. I also don't really care for how you "feel" about the demand issue - we have data on it. It points to what Nvidia has been saying, demand is outstripping the supply. AMD is saying the same thing now. Nvidia's financials show the same thing. It makes sense logically (everyone I know wants these cards), just looking at google trend data shows that more people are searching for Nvidia 3000, RDNA2, AMD 5000 series CPUs then every previous launch. Most people I know are working from home, they want a console. They want a new gaming PC. Etc. How do you explain a massive revenue increase from Nvidia if they simply aren't selling any cards? Suddenly, two years after launch, everyone wants a 2000 series? lol. What's also funny to me is that I personally know three people with 3080s - so for a card that's considered a "paper launch" its weird that I know so many people that have them.

I can only tell you what i think because we have no data to know if it´s you or me that is right about this. About building a bigger stock before release, for me this would make a better release because more people would have the cards right at the start instead of only a few buying them. In the end, most people would have to wait anyway but i think this way would be better for everyone. About searching in Google for certain products, that doesn´t equate to sales. I´ve also been searching for the products you mentioned and i have not bought any of them and probably i will not buy any hardware for the rest of the year. The increase revenue can be explained by Nvidia discounting the 2000 series so they can clear up the stock for the new series or maybe by a surge on mobile GPUs, like mackinstosh mentioned, because many are buying new laptops to work from home. Or maybe it´s from the 300 series, like you think it´s. The problem is that we have no way of knowing for sure, because Nvidia doesn´t disclose their revenues by products or series or products, so your guess is good as mine. But one thing is for sure, everyone is reporting that they received very few units of cards, compared to previous lauchs, and we have lots of people complaining that they want a 3000 card and they can´t get one anywere. I think this points out to a production issue, very few cards available to sell, and not to a demand problem, so i stand by my idea that this almost a paper lauch by Nvidia. But i could be wrong, of course.

I think it's a perfect storm of: -->People like us, waited for 2 or 3 generations to buy a new GPU (expensive, unimpressive, etc) -->People are bored out of their minds, many of them built a PC this year with their entertainment money -->More people are working from home, many of them built a PC this year, some went all out (more than an office PC) -->Kids are staying home to homeschool online, many of them got laptops, some got a new PC. -->New builds happened simply because of the fantastic new CPUS; finally giving holdouts on Sandy Bridge (etc) a path. -->Stock might have been a bit limited and covid makes shipping more challenging. It's not just GPU's being affected. Lots of parts are really hard to find this year. 2020 is a total build-a-thon.

Imagine if something happens to TSMC's factories... Companies, consumers and billions of $ depending on them. Very good for TSMC but pressure is high not to fuck it up. :P

Etailers should add a 'Hope' button to 'Buy' & 'Preorder'!

Mpampis:

Why on earth would Frank Azor make such comments online, when AMD clearly didn't have enough stock for a proper launch? I mean, he's not a fan boy, those comments are part of his job, he makes the company look like amateurs.

It was a dumb thing for him to do. I was watching the PCWorld podcast and one of them made a really good point. AMD's numbers could of been better than Nvidia's and a lot better than we all think. If you go to ibuypower, cyberpowerPC, etc and try and buy a PC you can get one with a 6800 GPU and a 5000 series CPU and have it built and delivered within a few weeks. This could be AMD trying to rebuild their relationships with system builders as many of them in the past abandoned AMD for Intel. The same thing has been happening with laptop system builders as well with AMD making sure they are taken care of. I mean AMD made the 4700 APU series and made it exclusive to system builders only. This probably isn't the only reason for short supply but it makes sense to be one of the reasons for short supply. Then slap on COVID and the year 2020 in general and you have the full picture.

I said this would happen and it did. If anyone did some research, then, you'd know that the extra capacity that was freed-up recently at TSMC was bought-up by AMD...to make more PS5 soc. No-one except a few nerds like me at work are even talking about the latest AMD cpu and gpus. No-one cares at all. Nearly everyone wants a PS5, which is at least 30+ people. Guess what? No-one managed to get a PS5 either...

Stormyandcold:

I said this would happen and it did. If anyone did some research, then, you'd know that the extra capacity that was freed-up recently at TSMC was bought-up by AMD...to make more PS5 soc. No-one except a few nerds like me at work are even talking about the latest AMD cpu and gpus. No-one cares at all. Nearly everyone wants a PS5, which is at least 30+ people. Guess what? No-one managed to get a PS5 either...

When is the last time a launch was not a paper launch? Maybe things are difference in US but in Canada pretty much every tech products launched in the last 2 years took 2-3 weeks minimum to be sort of available.

MonstroMart:

When is the last time a launch was not a paper launch? Maybe things are difference in US but in Canada pretty much every tech products launched in the last 2 years took 2-3 weeks minimum to be sort of available.

Last batch of Intel CPUs were fairly available. Don't get me wrong, great tech usually sells out on release. Hey, same goes for PS5, good luck trying to get one. We are living in a bit of a weird time right now too. Production will hit somewhat of a limit, due to the pandemic. Plus, there's a lot more people sat at home on furlough, bored and just spunking money because they have nothing to do. All this adds up.

tty8k:

"Unprecedented demand" My procreating ass ... what demand when you send 16 cards to an entire continent. Really tired of all of them and their lies.

There is something wrong with these numbers. Only one, not too big store in Poland (Morele.NET), half an hour after the start of sales, announced that the cards are sold out and that they were sold to 48 people (for rx6800) and 52 people (for RX5800XT). I do not believe that Poland had any special preferences in the supply of these cards, which means that the data referred to in the article are false. I even thought about buying the RX6800XT but I will wait for Asus TUF.

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Im not sure what people were expecting, if NVIDIA couldn't predict/meet demand, then there was no chance in hell that amd would, no matter what precautions they may have taken. they simply do not have the production capability. given the state of crypto right now, it doesn't surprise me that cards are scarce.

Fortunately, I'm waiting on RX5700 replacement and the 3060Ti to launch....so I still got at least a couple months before being completely disappointed.