Download: Ryzen DRAM Calculator v1.3.1

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Hey guys! I have 4 DRAM modules. When I first bought them Taiphoon used to say all of them were Samsung Modules, two of them being rank #2 and the other two rank #1 (Samsung B-Die). Now I'm using the latest Taiphoon and it's showing Micron and Hynix. Since they are "completly" different, how could I use this tool to achieve a good dram overclock? Just a background: I'm using Ryzen 1700 + Taichi X370. In the first BIOS version I used to be able to overclock using "XMP Profile" of 3066 MHz. Now I've flashed the latest 5.10 BIOS (AGESA 1.0.0.6) and I'm unable to overclocking these sticks. I'm considering doing it manually using this calculator, is it possible? Thanks! 2 are Micron (module #1 and module #2) https://i.imgur.com/Uwq61Er.png 2 are Micron (module #3 and module #4) https://i.imgur.com/74hAGkz.png PS: I bought them in Amazon. Both kits were at the same link, but since they were sold as different kits, each kit is different from the other =/. I will never again do this mistake, next time I will buy as many sticks as I need but as 1 kit only, to make sure all of them will be the same.
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Great article. Thank for the work @1usmus.
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A massive thank you @1usmus for your hard work. I used the tool with my T-force 8Pack 3200CL14 Samsung B-die and it worked great with the settings provided at 3600Mhz CL14-15-15. I think i have squeezed as much performance out of this processor i can get now lol. I couldn't use it on my Corsair Vengeance PLX cause i don't know what Hynix memory types Corsair used on them.
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Thank you for this great tool! I went from an Intel platform to an AMD Ryzen 2700X, but kept the quad memory kit. The memory didn't work at the advertised XMP-settings at all (16-16-16-36@2800MHz, 1.2V, no-QVL), but this tool saved my day! The modules now operate perfectly stable at 14-15-15-32@3066MHz with a voltage setting of 1.38V (higher speeds should be possible but timings would be a lot looser according to the tool).
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@1usmus : Did you change anything serious from v1.4 to v1.6.x? I see some values (TCKE for example) going from 1 to 8 again (got almost all your versions in my storage to compare since 1.x) in SAFE settings, Samsung B-die @ 3200MHz CL14, and some other values changing slightly. My current problem is I did a BIOS update and since then my system is unstable, regardless of what I choose (current @ SAFE w/ 3200MHz, 2 modules). I read my RAM's timings from XMP and TRFC is set to 560 in XMP, but SAFE profile lists it as 256 (regular, is set currently in my BIOS) or 252 (alt). I notice the unstable setting when playing games like Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 (quits straight to desktop without error message on desktop with APP HANG in error log) or other games, which quit suddenly and without errors, only in the log "APP HANG" is visible. Nothing is overclocked, settings SAFE like I said above and under ADVANCED I took the most stable settings for RAM (load line calibration and stuff). RAM is set to 1.36V currently with SAFE settings from 1.6.0.2. Do I need more juice on those or do I have to change other values? I already followed your block diagram as far as I could, but it made my system even more unstable so after hours of fiddling around I reset all the stuff and used the settings above. Any help is appreciated.
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Using the latest Tool 16.0.0.3, I got my F4-3200C14D-16GVK to 3800C16-16-16-16 as indicated in the tool, using the timings provided by the tool. Only 1.4v so far though, instead of the recommended 1.45v. Not fully loaded yet to test. Coming later. Old Memtest works. Sweet timings, 63.1ns latency so far. πŸ™‚ Thanks πŸ™‚
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zombienerd:

I'm running 32gb of Hynix CJB (16gb x2). Using the safe preset, I get one memory error every hour or so in memtest86. Do you have any recommendations on which timing to move, and in which direction? I already bumped voltage to 1.4 with same result. https://imgur.com/f5Zt4QH
1.41V, go up in increments. πŸ˜‰
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so i just got some trident Z neo (32gb CL16-19-19-i wanna say 39?) am i correct in assuming hynix MFR is not supported by the tool currently or did i do something wrong? thought i was getting samsung b-die got hynix MFR instead...apparently
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I'm getting wicked timings from my B-die using the Dram calculator. I used the Fast settings, and didn't use quite as much voltage as set. It said 1.45V I tried 1.4 and settled on 1.42V. edit : (So far)
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tried it that way and it is indeed in the dropdown but when i try to calculate safe it just comes up with a little box saying not supported πŸ™
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anub1s18:

tried it that way and it is indeed in the dropdown but when i try to calculate safe it just comes up with a little box saying not supported πŸ™
If it says unsupported i would say you are trying to calculate a very high speed like 3800 or so try lower and see if it does the same.
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i am trying to calculate for 3600mhz (it's a 3600mhz kit so...seemed appropriate). setting it to 3200 indeed seems to work 😱 hmmmm 3200 cl 14-15-16-16 or 3600 cl16-19-19-19 3466 seems to be the highest i can calculate atm at which point it's requiring 0.1v more then stock but still aiming for cl14-17-17-17 i am getting the distinct impression for 3600mhz this kit's overclocking headroom is gone be pretty slim, most of the things i found about this type of ram is talking much lower speeds (and generally not talking about it in a positive maner) but it already chopped 10ns? off my latency compared to my previous temporary cause all good ram was out of stock kingston hyper-x (micron-E) so at least yay for that :P
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just looking to optimize my rig really not chasing any world records πŸ˜› had this ryzen thing for 2 month's now and it seems to appreciate ram quite a lot and personal oc time not so much so i'm just trying to find if my ram mainly the subtimings can be tightened more without going crazy πŸ˜› just for info my rig is : amd 3900X (currently still boxed cooler, gooing custom liquid next week barring unforeseen circomstances/ should make the ram temperature's a lot nicer) mobo : Asus X570 Strix-E ram : G.skill trident Z neo 32gb 3600Mhz (F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC) i got cheap cause this upgrade was getting way more expensive then initially planned but probably shoulda sprang for the cl16-16-16 kit feel like the hynix MFR's could not possibly achieve that at 1.35v but was under the impression all g.skill trident Z neo was samsung b-die >.< thanks for the settings i'll give those a try see how it responds (probably after i switch my cooling, blasting 50-70 degree air towards the motherboard/ram probably isn't gone make things better
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gerardfraser:

Nice rig,you know what I have never tried my RAM at default 1.35v settings DDR4 4000Mhz kit.Any time your going to adjust timings I would assume you need some more voltage for stability.So depending on how much your changing your timings,you may not need to adjust voltage very much.Best part it is fun testing but if you have no time,then that is not so fun.Anyway good luck. EDIT: I think you would be better off trying to run your RAM Default Tested Latency 16-16-16-36 DDR4-Set to 3800Mhz DRAM Voltage 1.45v Lower anytime ,only for testing BIOS set fclk-1900Mhz Sub-timings from the Dram screenshot I provided and that should work for what you want.
was gone wait till i had the cooling sorted but decided to do some tinkering anyway.. so far this ram isn't treating me nearly as nicely as the micron-E but i wasn't really pushing that at all. first tried to drag down 1 of the timings to 16-16-19-19-39 at 1.35v (default which i later just kept is 16-19-19-19-39) was greeted by a need to clear cmos πŸ˜› which on this fancy board involves a screwdriver (my cheap ancient Z97 board had a nice button at the back...miss it already) figured it'd go about as well but wanted to try it anyway. reset to default manually plugged in voltages/frequency/ docp timings (16-19-19-19-36 left the rest to auto for the time beeing mostly seems looser then specified so higher odd's of success?) set dram voltage to 1.45, upped dram frequency to 3800, FLCK to 1900 upped soc voltage to 1.125 (1.12 specifically was not selectable) posted got in to windows, ran the dram calculator memtest latency shot from ~71/75 to 168/175 which was extremely noticeable, dove back in to the bios undid what i did back to manual stock and it's fine again...not sure what happend there but i'll need to play a lot more with it later i feel πŸ˜› probably also won't hurt to have a solid bios/AGESA version (still feel quite like a beta tester in that department >.< it works but pumping 1.45v in to the cpu in the bios doesn't feel like that's how things should be, that's the default out the box /loaded optimized defaults experience) did check in ryzen master ram was running at 3800Mhz and FLCK was 1900Mhz timings seemed to be normal no idea what caused it. did notice after the warning it took about 3x as long for the test to start it's threads which already raised a red flag for me πŸ˜›
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I have 3600X and G Skill 3600 2x8GB 16-16-16-36, Samsung B-Die. This was supposed to be a good RAM kit. BUT. When I check AIDA Memory speed it is 50356 MB/s read, 28000 write, 47000 Copy. I have Asus TUF-X570 and in BIOS profile is set to run at 3600. BIOS us up to date. Those are some strange numbers, no? If I use DRAM Calc and use "Safe" numbers, system does not boot and goes into "light brick" - Have to take out the ram sticks, turn on, turn off, sticks back in and hope it would boot. Clear CMOS does not do anything. PC looks bricked...
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C16 Bdie isn't quite as good as C14 Bdie.
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@alpha007org : Your numbers match my profile for 3200 MHz on 1st gen Ryzen. Except write, where I am at about 50k still. Your latency in AIDA64 mem bench?
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LyxisTR:

yo bro i have micron b-die and micron d-die modules im using my rams at 2800mhz 16-17-17-34-51 (default is 2400mhz 16-16-16-39-55) how should i overlock my rams for d-die or for b-die ?
typically you would want to use the worst timings for both sticks(the timing on the worse stick on both)