Decapitate a Core i9 9900K apply an OC-Frame, and cool it better
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BLEH!
Intel switches back to solder - OCers still delid... xD
Picolete
Because they did a shit soldering work
schmidtbag
Really? Kelvin? Why is Hartung is patronizing his customers with stupid marketing fluff? Celsius is the same scale and actually makes sense to people.
Agent-A01
It it not compatible simply because the actual die's height has basically doubled as well as the substrate being a different thickness.
hearnia_2K
What is the point of this product? Why bother with the frame? Just put the cooler on after delidding the CPU. So long as you put it on properly, and straight/flat, and tighten it gradually and evenly there should be no problem.
The frame seems like a waste of money.
vbetts
Moderator
Stops you from putting too much pressure directly on die.
Basically it's a guide for mounting.
Ssateneth
The frame is multi-purpose. You screw it into the board, so it acts like the clamshell part of the mounting mechanism where it presses the CPU down into the socket evenly.
It acts as a shim so any pressure that isn't directly down will press against the frame instead of a corner of the CPU die, which could break it.
Since you are not pressing down on the die to maintain pressure with socket pins, this is safer. Without the frame, you will bend the CPU because all the mounting pressure is centered directly on the CPU die instead of the PCB itself.
chispy
Been playing ( Binning ) with lots of 9900k lately ( finally found me a Golden one 🙂 1.17v 5.0Ghz chip ) and this chips indeed runs hot , but deliding it's not worth it as it gives you give or take ~4c better temperatures onced delid and liquid metal applied , right there you loose your warranty for a mere 4c better temps. Sanding down the die it's a big no no also as the cpu silicon becomes too fragile and even a big air cooler or too tight water block will brake or crack the die , it's been happening in the extreme LN2 overclockers scene a lot. If anyone wants to try this please be very careful.
In my opinion it's a lot better to leave it as is , just get the best air cooler you can get or better yet water cooling for this cpu. The problem lies in the thickness of the die and silicon itself for heat transfer.
Bo Alenkaer
I’m sure the frame does provide pressure for better contact. My best goes would be that it might slightly bend in the middle and the outer pins might lose contact
anticupidon
Scary word: decapitate.
Even scarier, lapping bare silicon - der8auer is on another level completely!
Venix
If it was on my hands , i would have released the top of the line CPU also in a bare version , so no heat spreder. A lot of people i feel they will be interested in such version among the enthusiast's.
chispy
Watch this video again ( 6.44 mark ) , nowhere does he states 12-18c difference from stock to direct die with liquid metal , in fact he says around 4-10c expected depending on the cpu ( every cpu has a different vid ). Delid the cpu buy this frame use liquid metal for an average of 5~6c degrees on an average cpu with a vid of 1.30v it is not worth it. Worst case scenario 4c and best been 10c better temps only and that's not great and not a massive difference for a 9900k.
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I'm glad to say this time around us the extreme overclockers are not deliding this cpus as the temps are overcome by using massive liquid nitrogen cpu containers like kingpin T-rex , Venom or derbauer Beast specially designed with a massive cooper base to hold the temps at max ln2 temps under load at -196c , as this time around the solder it's much better than the poop used before. Deliding cpus for extreme overclocking on LN2 it was needed on older cpus 3770k , 4770k , 6700k ,7700k due to poop tim used , but that brought another problem , the new replacement thermal paste been used between the die and the heatspreader would crack at temps cycles of ~150c-196c and temps would crash after a few runs lets say of cinebench R15 and you had to stop , dry everything and re apply thermal paste again on the die and the top of the heatspreader. My 3770K delided under LN2 had this problem that would keep cracking the Tim after a few runs cycles and was a real pita to bench on LN2 http://hwbot.org/submission/2373269_chispy_superpi___1m_core_i7_3770k_5sec_343ms
cowie
I think its smart to take chispy's advice;)
merry chrstmas btw
chispy
Nice to see you around my good old friend Gino 🙂 , happy holidays my brother !
oxidized
Liquid metal conducts better than any solder.
Dazz
der8auer says you lie,solder conducts better but any liquid metal, but requires a certain thickness to be used so it does not fracture. Thats what he says in the delid of the 2600X [youtube=VEUG9d4Mjug]
junior_clk
So better but a cryo-tec cooler instead of delidding
Athlonite
the temperature is about 4 to 10 Kelvin lower.... Kelvin ???? 😏really who the F@%^$ uses Kelvin to measure CPU temps
zipper
Somebody does like bigger figures - others perhaps bigger boobs...
oxidized
I might be wrong but i'm not sure how he tested what he's saying. Liquid metal probably has a worse ELECTRICAL conductivity, but the same cannot be said for HEAT conductivity, simply because they're not the same thing, and they don't necessarily depends on the same things.
In theory liquids/fluids or solutions if we want to be accurate, conduct heat better than solids, simply because they're liquid and not solid. The liquid metal which is an alloy of multiple metals, has its melting/freezing point at room temps, therefore it could be considered a solution, hence conducting heat better. This is what i learnt so far, i might be totally wrong, but i'd like to see some proof first.
