Just the 5ghz 8 core had me tempting to upgrade, now with the soldier IHS its the icing......take my money intel.

Nothing more than a corporate decision, they would lose more by not doing that.

Threadripper 2 for me, will have to see pricing to choose between 16, 24 or 32c. I don't care anymore what intel solders or not solders or how many Ghz they brag about... they simply have nothing that can touch TR 2 in core counts and overall raw power. It will be interesting to be able to run a long 4K encode on -veryslow preset while also gaming at the same time without any slowdowns.

warlord:

Ryzen bottlenecks any gpu stronger than 1070 / vega 56. Good luck and prosper future I wish to you.

Nobodies buy TR for gaming tho.

HWgeek:

Yes!, this is why you got from " Best Gaming 4C CPU 7700K" last year to 8C 4.7Ghz 9900K this year! Look how huge Impact Competition has! so keep spreading the word out that your friends/family can consider AMD CPU's too relative to their needs, big example would be 2200G/2400G vs cheap i3 Intel PC's that common customers don't know that 200G/2400G APU is better alternative to Intel's i3 with iGPU.

Uhhh that's totally incorrect. The best gaming CPU last year was not the 7700k but the 8700k. And in fact, the 8600k outperforms the 7700k in every task, especially gaming. I think you mean 2 yrs ago 😀 And you cant say the 9900k is the best this year since....it's not actually out.

Priyeshbabariya:

How can people who had Intel system over the years in the past and cheering as well as thanking AMD to bringing out the competition also upping the game in core count as well as the thermal solution when they don't intend to switch to AMD at all in future?! I do not understand mentality of customers, on one side people thank AMD to bringing out competition & then they buy Intel. how the hell AMD would come back when you do not buy their products at all or not intend to buy the products from them in future at all?

Why on earth would I switch to an inferior platform? Intel still remains the best for gaming, period. Yes it's a bit more expensive. However, it's not enormous. I'm a rather modest student with low income (and no, I don't live with my parents, I'm a mature student, over 40) and I could still afford to build a new system with z370 and an 8600k.... I'd go AMD if I was building for the kids or my mum, but for a pure gamer. No. Oh and btw, core count doesn't mean squat. You can have 32 cores but if they are slower and less optimised, or games/apps are less optimised FOR them, then they serve no purpose. For those doing video editing etc of course AMD is the way to go. I am talking strictly gaming here.

Priyeshbabariya:

How can people who had Intel system over the years in the past and cheering as well as thanking AMD to bringing out the competition also upping the game in core count as well as the thermal solution when they don't intend to switch to AMD at all in future?! I do not understand mentality of customers, on one side people thank AMD to bringing out competition & then they buy Intel. how the hell AMD would come back when you do not buy their products at all or not intend to buy the products from them in future at all?

.........I built a mini-ITX 2200G system in March, Ryzen 3 1400 backup gaming/storage computer in the kitchen right after that and also convinced my friend to build a Ryzen 5 2600X system instead of the 8600k build he was about to buy. I've supported and purchased from both AMD and Intel since the 1990's, but I will get a 9900k if the rumors are true just for my main gaming PC. When Ryzen 2 7nm comes out and is able to really blow the 2000 series out of the water, I'll probably buy one for some purpose around the house.

BLEH!:

I'll believe it when I see it...

Same here, but we can hope Intel isn't just sticking their head in the sand and ignoring the fact that AMD is back in the fight.

nizzen:

Who game in 4k 60hz LOL

I do. Can't stand 30hz or tearing, yet when I tested my 5 favorite games at the time (GTAV, PCARS 2, GoW4, FH3 and ME:SoW) at 100hz+ on a friends ASUS 144hz/1080p screen I didn't feel any benefit. Thus the reason I shoot for a locked 60 and crank up the graphics.

So i wonder, clock for clock, in multi-threaded applications, which one will be faster 8700K with 6/12 or 9700K with 8/8? I wonder if i should upgrade to that one, instead of i9 since for gaming and PS3 emulation 8/16 wont have any benefit over 8/8

And what will you all do when IceLake releases soon with new IPC and bigger boosts? I'm personally waiting for this one if I'll go intel again. I mentioned this twice now, older cpus still have plenty of power until then, https://www.techspot.com/review/1526-intel-4th-gen-core-i7-vs-8th-gen/page1.html this is with a 1080ti and you don't really play on 1080p with that.. Even I don't with my 980Ti (prefer 2880x1620p dsr @ 144hz) I personally rather have a fresh 8core then some old arch chewed to max with its roots from SandyBridge core,. And that 5Ghz isn't doing it for me. More like a marketing trick, I dare to say forget 5GHZ on all 8 cores even if soldered. 😀

wavetrex:

Threadripper 2 for me, will have to see pricing to choose between 16, 24 or 32c. I don't care anymore what intel solders or not solders or how many Ghz they brag about... they simply have nothing that can touch TR 2 in core counts and overall raw power. It will be interesting to be able to run a long 4K encode on -veryslow preset while also gaming at the same time without any slowdowns.

The problem with such a high number of cores is taking advantage of them, atm threadripper loses to intel on encoding out of clocks and programs not using properly so many cores, and thats with 16/18 cores, going into 32.... you going to need to do tons of multi tasking to make it worth it, as it will most likely lose on single tasks like gaming, rending, encoding. But doing everything at once, this is where it should shine, like gaming, while streaming on medium x264, while recording locally into a higher bitrate, while ripping a blue ray, while folding. What AMD has done to me its nothing but extraordinary, but for the vast majority of users, they are better with something else, even ryzen 7, until proper support is given to multicores, threadripper2 will remain a niche cpu.

-Tj-:

And what will you all do when IceLake releases soon with new IPC and bigger boosts?

Buy that and sell the 9900k system to somebody still on Sandy? With how easy it is to install Windows 10 and get it up and running these days, changing out the guts of a PC every year or so instead of doing the "buy high end stuff every 5 years" thing isn't too tough. Honestly, I'm just getting to where I want USB C on my motherboard and for my NMVe drive to be able to spread its wings. Haswell has been an absolute joy to run for all these years and I'll probably keep it as a backup gaming machine even after getting a 9900k system. After that, looking at reviews to see what difference IceLake will bring. How much IPC gain? What kind of clocks and core counts? Hardware fixes for Spectre and Meltdown kind of stuff?

Angushades:

Well here's hoping it will be just a bios update for z370 boards.

there was a bios update for my Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7 already for microcode for new CPU

nhanphan1990:

I've been using 120 hz screens since 2012, and I could not tell the difference between 120 fps and 144 fps...heck I can't even feel the difference between 100 fps and 140 fps...and I play fps games like battlefields, far crys all the time.

My wife don't see the difference between 60hz and 144hz, but she is not interested in it either 😉 If you move you're mouse or scroll up and down in the internetbrowser, there is easy to notice the difference in 100 and 144hz. People often see or don't see what they want to see. Same way people defend they're buys.

Fox2232:

Majority of users do not run applications under conditions where they would notice difference between 4C/8T and 16C/32T ... I expect that @wavetrex knows what he is doing when he is picking parts for his system.

Totally agree, the large number of cores is not for the average user. It's not even for a "prosumer" who does some creative work, as just one program at a time, no matter how complex or professional it is, won't really tax something with more than 8 cores. It's all about that heavy multitasking... stuff happening in the background while STILL being able to do things in the foreground.

abula:

...But doing everything at once, this is where it should shine, like gaming, while streaming on medium x264, while recording locally into a higher bitrate, while ripping a blue ray...

That is pretty much it. I have a 4K camera with which I shoot something every week, videos needs to be processed and encoded, I also game ( no streaming though, but do record some gaming sessions). The computer is also various doing background stuff, and is being accessed by several other people, sometimes at once. It's a combination server/workstation/gaming machine. Yes, I could have multiple PC's for different purposes... but that takes space (which some of you might know, is at a premium in the Netherlands, common living spaces are expensive and small), consumes more electricity, produces more heat (in this hot summer!). If I could have one CPU that does it all in a single enclosure, why not ?? That's why I love the Threadripper plan... finally something that can do everything without resorting to multiple machines! p.s. My current PC is an Intel 6-core HEDT, because unfortunately that was the best available when and where I bought it. It unfortunately chokes on anything more than 1 task at a time 🙁

I saw a nice more fluid picture, went from 60hz to 144hz, would never go Back. But what's more interesting was how smooth it played, even when fps dropped to 90-100fps @vsync

I went from 75Hz to 144Hz, massive difference in fast paced games, online multiplayer shooters - so much more visual information to base actions on, especially in close quarter combat.

Man if true we will see the true successor to the 2500K/2600K/2700K CPUs with 8c/16t and great overclocking potential.

If the price is right, this might be my next CPU.

So intel is going back to lower quality materials. I wonder why are they not sticking with their TIM...

I will believe it when people start breaking chips when they delid wrong

Mundosold:

Are people forgetting the 9900k is an i9 and not an i7? No way it will be priced below $450. Even their 8086K 'gimmick celebration' cpu is over 400, by raising the turbo for ONE core by 300mhz. 14nm++++++++++++ = prescott all over again.

Well I think that now they are downgrading the i7 CPUs by not giving them HT, then I think this 'devalues' both the i7 and i9 series, so I wouldn't expect the i9-9900K to cost as much as traditional i9 series CPUs - I think they're in the process of reshaping their market to offer more cores for the same price (driven by AMD's large number of cores & low prices). They're also allowing the i9-9900K to be compatible with older & cheaper motherboards, so it's not part of an ultra high end package.