Core i9-9900K 8-core Will have Soldered Heatspreader

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Hey, well this is good news - much needed for 8 cores! In my own experience (& others) delidding with liquid metal reduces temperatures by about 15 degC - the solder on these 8 core CPUs would have the same effect, so it's possible these 8 core CPUs will run cooler than the toothpaste 6 core / 12 thread CPUs, my prediction anyway!
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8c/16t soldered and up to 5.5Ghz with overclock(If the rumors are true). A true beast.
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about time too!
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This is because of Ryzen, without it they would treat consumers a bit like crap because at the top you can do that.
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If this ends up being true, then I'll most likely build a system around an i9-9900k. My 4770k can't go past 4.4GHz and my trusty old Z97 and DDR3 2400CL10 are just itching to be replaced 😉 Seeing as DDR5 is a ways out, I'm thinking 9900k on a Z390 with 16GB of DDR4 3600MHz and the new 1180. Playing emulators dependent on single core frequency is something I do often, so Intel has my money (if they solder for the retail chips) until 7nm Zen 2 arrives and can compete with a ~5.2GHz 9900k under an NH-D15S. Three cheers for AMD bringing an end to the toothpaste era!
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They probably had too many fires with the dried jizz they were using as thermal compound during earlier development. Amazing how not being 100% pieces of shit is now something that's seen as a positive rather than expected. Good job Intel, there can now be theoretically greater scum than you.
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Neo Cyrus:

They probably had too many fires with the dried jizz they were used as thermal compound during earlier development.
Thank you, that gave me a good laugh!:D:D
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I'll believe it when I see it...
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Robbo9999:

Hey, well this is good news - much needed for 8 cores! In my own experience (& others) delidding with liquid metal reduces temperatures by about 15 degC - the solder on these 8 core CPUs would have the same effect, so it's possible these 8 core CPUs will run cooler than the toothpaste 6 core / 12 thread CPUs, my prediction anyway!
but the DerBauer test showed that the liquid metal is better than the solder by 4 degrees! When DerBauer opened the 2600X riser and replaced the solder with a liquid metal I'm sure 95% of the solder will not be returned and will be left just in case for an AMD response and just as sure that for the sake of 9900k the lines will not be rebuilt There is no sense at all considering the speedy release of 7nm from the amd and the hole of vulnerability in place! I would wait 10nm and considering that if you play in 2k or 4k, then the overpayment for Intel is simply not goal-oriented, because everything will rest against the possibility of a graphics processor
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Priyeshbabariya:

How can people who had Intel system over the years in the past and cheering as well as thanking AMD to bringing out the competition also upping the game in core count as well as the thermal solution when they don't intend to switch to AMD at all in future?! I do not understand mentality of customers, on one side people thank AMD to bringing out competition & then they buy Intel. how the hell AMD would come back when you do not buy their products at all or not intend to buy the products from them in future at all?
Most people don't buy second best, if the best product isn't that more expensive. What people buy, I don't care. I buy products for myself, not product others want me to buy.
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Honestly for just gaming my 1600 @3.925ghz is a massive overkill at least in 4k gaming I can only imagine what these would be like in my system would probably never pass 25% utilization.
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icedman:

Honestly for just gaming my 1600 @3.925ghz is a massive overkill at least in 4k gaming I can only imagine what these would be like in my system would probably never pass 25% utilization.
Who game in 4k 60hz LOL
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Meanwhile at Intel: Engineer guy 1: "Can we chip a portable chiller unit with each CPU? Cuz you know, tooth past ain't gonna cut it this time!" Engineer guy 2: "I think it's better if we just solder the die to the IHS." Marketing guy 1: "And then we sell the chiller unit separately?" Marketing guy 2: "Good idea, everyone will buy it to get 5Ghz on all 8 cores and we will make millions!" Engineer guy 3: "What if you know who gets out an affordable CPU with more cores that does not need the chiller to stay cool?" Everyone else: "Shut up!"
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Koniakki:

To some comments above.. Because some of us choose as an example, a 8700k over a 1700(x)/1800(x)/2700(x), it must automatically means that we dislike AMD cpu's? And same goes for why some chose 1080(ti) over Vega 56/64, it doesn't mean we dislike AMD gpu's. On the contrary, I'm equally enjoying and cheering for all of them and absolutely enjoy reading about each release and their reviews, especially the 1700X release the most in the last few years! Most of us purely love hardware unbiasedly. So please, take those fanboy hats off and buy/enjoy whatever fits your needs or preference. 🙂
YES ! I buy hardware for the performance. I don't car what color/name it is. I just want the fastest 😀
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Makes sense, the six core versions are already very hot so it´s necessary to (finally) solder the heat spreader to control the temps on an hexa core version.
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Sounds like it could finally be time for me to upgrade from my 3770K@4.5GHz.
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Kinda makes me want one due to the longevity of it being soldered if this is true... just wish if rumours also be true we don't have to replace the motherboard. 8700k is great, but in this summer heat it sure does run hot! Will look forward to the review and temps of this, with it being soldered it wouldn't shock me if it runs a tad cooler than the 8700k even with the extra cores. Hopefully me moving soon to a colder area will help! saw my 8700k spike to 80c in games (mind you ambient temps are in the 30s atm)
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foetopsyRus:

but the DerBauer test showed that the liquid metal is better than the solder by 4 degrees! When DerBauer opened the 2600X riser and replaced the solder with a liquid metal I'm sure 95% of the solder will not be returned and will be left just in case for an AMD response and just as sure that for the sake of 9900k the lines will not be rebuilt There is no sense at all considering the speedy release of 7nm from the amd and the hole of vulnerability in place! I would wait 10nm and considering that if you play in 2k or 4k, then the overpayment for Intel is simply not goal-oriented, because everything will rest against the possibility of a graphics processor
Yeah, I remember hearing about his test, but I thought it was more like 2 degC difference, but now I've looked it up after you mentioned it - yes it's 4 degC cooler with liquid metal vs solder. Well, in that case the solder may only make a 10-15 degC lower temp than toothpaste then - still reckon 9700/9900K will run same or lower temps than 8700K, we'll see though.
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Fox2232:

99.8% of people do not game on 4k resolution even if some of them own 4k screen. But 99% of all people game on 60Hz. So, take your "lol" elsewhere. I say it as someone with screen capable to utilize same pixel rate as that 4k 60Hz.
That i think very much depends on where you live and what age/income bracket you belong to. I do not know anyone who game on their pc who still use 1920x1080@60hz. A few use 2560x1440@144hz, some use 3440x1440@100 hz (i do) and some others use 3840x2160@60hz (4k). The majority who do not game (besides solitare and facebook games) use a cheap 1080p or a laptop. But in my age many use thousands on golf clubs, motorcycles, fishing gear and hunting gear so nobody raise a eyebrow if someone use 1k$ on a monitor or a gpu. (maybe not as bragged as a new carbon bike,shotgun,lawnmower or a boat 🙂) On the topic i find that Intel going back to soldered a great thing. We just started to do the delid thing on our 8700k's with great success, but loosing warranty sucks. (I never experienced with many years of gaming that a cpu failed)

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