jpotts:

Would anyone happen to know what the error in bold means? Thread# 17 fall down, usage 94.1% Clearly my sample is crap, but I'm not sure if part of the bad diagnosis is around some issue with how I have things configured? This was on LLC 2, so maybe it's a power issue? I tried on LLC 3, but it gave me a warning to use a "softer" LLC, which I assume means an LLC setting with a lower voltage curve.

That is expected behaviour - though it will be at different values for different set ups/chip quality. If you follow the log you can see that is is running each test at reference MHz and then dropping the voltage by 6mV on each test, starting at ref voltage until the test fails. Manual overclocking mode enabled Sets overclocking parameters... CCX1 Quality 136 Frequency 4050 MHz Voltage 1200 mV CCX2 Quality 122 Frequency 4050 MHz Voltage 1200 mV . . . Step# 5 Diagnostic VID voltage: 1176 mV Stress test started! 10/01/2020 12:43:05 SOC SVI2 1.094 Thread# 17 fall down, usage 94.1% Stress test stopped! 10/01/2020 12:43:21 So at 1176mV the test fails as your CPU cannot maintain 4050MHz stable on 1176mV. All of the test have to fail at some point so that the program can determine the limits of each core/ccx and then recommend it's values for o/c or undervolt profiles. I'm luckier as mine fails at 1074mV but unlucky as the next test just hard power resets my PC every time, no matter what I try. 🙁

Behemoth777:

Great piece of software! Worked great for me. The only issue I seem to be having is that I can't get CTR to open on boot and apply the profile automatically. I have to manually open the program every time I cold boot... However, I have noticed that if I cold boot and then reboot, CTR comes up on its own on reboot. I tried manually adding it to the startup folder and got the same result, won't open on its own on cold boot. Any ideas? Hardware: Ryzen 5 3600X ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero DDR4 3600 2x8GB Sabrent 4.0 Rocket NVMe SSD Windows 10 Pro latest build

You must use an administrator account otherwise CTR will not be able to load the profile.

Taskman:

Same problem here. Diagnostics works perfect but during the test my computer crashes by basically just restarting. So can't complete it with my 3700x

The problem may be related to weak VRM or BIOS (it depends on the motherboard manufacturer).

NuttyProcessor:

I have serious (Dangerous) issues running CTR. Let me first share my setup: - Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7 (bios F50 agesa 1.0.0.4) - 3800XT - 2x8GB GSkill 3600c17 Samsung B-die - RTX 2080 Super - Cougar CM1000R - Deepcool Captain 360 white AIO - Latest win 10 enterprise In bios: - Disabled SVM - LLC control on Turbo (Both CPU voltage as SOC voltage) - Rest is on auto - RM 2.3.0 - .NET Framework 4.6 (not sure where to find what version i have, but CTR 'worked') - CB R20 The problem i encounter is after running Diagnostic (Silver sample, 4324Mhz@1.262v recommended) i press start, the OC applies and starts testing FFT's (custom p95 i presume). Within a few minutes i get a warning that the voltage is too high and the system immediately needs a reboot. At that moment CPU SVI2 TFN gives me a readout of 1.55V (!) Double check with HWi is the same. Had i not monitored the CTR process it would keep on testing small FFT's and ruin my CPU. Luckily CTR gave me a warning, but this is not without risk and actually pretty dangerous behavior. Anyone else experience this behavior? And if so, what did you do? Second question is why to keep voltage of XT processors below 1,25v? I experienced reboots even after maxing the power-limits in bios. (this before using CTR, so CTR is not to blame here). Its weird behavior of the XT chips apparently nobody talks about? Anyone with some insight? Thnx in advance!

This means that the BIOS version is too old. But anyway don't worry, 1.55 won't hurt the processor as all the processes were stopped instantly.

redlabour:

3800XT is affected too. And it worked before. Why is it "now" a motherboard Manufacturer Bug?

Сritical problem if the processor has 4 or more CCX. Your processor has 2 of them.

1usmus:

You must use an administrator account otherwise CTR will not be able to load the profile.

I am on a admin account and I have that as well even with autoload on.

Hahaha, I gained 3 points in Cinebench! 😀 https://i.imgur.com/uWlAmyV.jpg These results are with LLC 2. It did much better under LLC 3, but gave me warnings during stress testing.

daghtus:

What makes me worry is that some cores display VID of 1.55 V pretty frequently in HWinfo when not all cores are under full load. Is this safe? Or is the reading incorrect? The weird thing is that some other cores display VID of 0 V which is obviously incorrect... Great job with CTR, though.

He's telling you to update your bios and try again. He doesnt want to debug problems that are probably already solved. If you still have issues its something he will take interest in.

I have updated the x570 AORUS Master bios to the latest version in between Beta 1 and Beta 2. Was expecting same or better due to the new AGESA and SMU but it's much worse. Can't keep the same 4400 all-core OC like before. Only consolation is that now the Diagnostics are working fine...

daghtus:

I'm of course running the latest BIOS; thank you very much.

It would have helped you to let him know that. Its not a basic assumption.

Soeski:

How did you get CTR working on the Aorus Master x570? Do anything special? It's not working with BIOS F30a and F30, beta1 and beta2 the same. Keeps saying I need to update my BIOS.

Both working, only in Beta 1 with bios F12a the Diagnostics was failing and setting crazy values for the ref clock. Didn't do anything special other than setting the relevant bios options as suggested by the guide. And testing OC with a positive offset. This is the diagnostics results (+0.04v offset) but I don't see anything that could be helpful.

***ClockTuner for Ryzen 1.0s by 1usmus***
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-Core Processor (870F10)
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X570 AORUS MASTER
BIOS ver. F30 SMU ver. 46.64.00
DRAM speed 3800 MHz
10/01/2020 13:49:34


AVX light mode
Cycle time: 45000 ms
Reference frequency: 4050MHz
Reference voltage: 1200 mV
Voltage step: 6 mV


Manual overclocking mode enabled
Sets overclocking parameters...
CCX1  Quality 136  Frequency 4050 MHz  Voltage 1200 mV
CCX2  Quality 122  Frequency 4050 MHz  Voltage 1200 mV

Step# 1
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1200 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:50:06
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:50:56

Step# 2
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1194 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:50:56
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:51:46

Step# 3
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1188 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:51:46
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:52:36

Step# 4
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1182 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:52:36
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:53:26

Step# 5
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1176 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:53:26
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:54:16

Step# 6
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1170 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:54:16
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:55:05

Step# 7
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1164 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:55:06
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:55:55

Step# 8
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1158 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:55:56
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:56:45

Step# 9
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1152 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:56:46
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:57:35

Step# 10
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1146 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:57:36
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:58:25

Step# 11
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1140 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:58:26
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:59:15

Step# 12
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1134 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:59:18
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 14:00:07

Step# 13
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1128 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 14:00:08
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 14:00:57

Step# 14
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1122 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 14:00:58
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 14:01:47

Step# 15
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1116 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 14:01:48
SOC SVI2 1.144
Thread# 17 fall down, usage 84.8%
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 14:02:24

Step# 16
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1122 mV


Diagnostic results:
Energy efficient: 3.61
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-Core Processor - Silver sample
Recomended values for Overclocking:
Reference frequency: 4174 MHz
Reference voltage: 1262 mV
Recomended values for Undervoolt:
Reference frequency: 4000 MHz
Reference voltage: 1175 mV
***ClockTuner for Ryzen 1.0s by 1usmus***
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-Core Processor (870F10)
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X570 AORUS MASTER
BIOS ver. F30 SMU ver. 46.64.00
DRAM speed 3800 MHz
10/01/2020 13:49:34


AVX light mode
Cycle time: 45000 ms
Reference frequency: 4050MHz
Reference voltage: 1200 mV
Voltage step: 6 mV


Manual overclocking mode enabled
Sets overclocking parameters...
CCX1  Quality 136  Frequency 4050 MHz  Voltage 1200 mV
CCX2  Quality 122  Frequency 4050 MHz  Voltage 1200 mV

Step# 1
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1200 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:50:06
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:50:56

Step# 2
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1194 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:50:56
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:51:46

Step# 3
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1188 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:51:46
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:52:36

Step# 4
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1182 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:52:36
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:53:26

Step# 5
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1176 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:53:26
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:54:16

Step# 6
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1170 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:54:16
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:55:05

Step# 7
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1164 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:55:06
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:55:55

Step# 8
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1158 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:55:56
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:56:45

Step# 9
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1152 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:56:46
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:57:35

Step# 10
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1146 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:57:36
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:58:25

Step# 11
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1140 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:58:26
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 13:59:15

Step# 12
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1134 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 13:59:18
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 14:00:07

Step# 13
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1128 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 14:00:08
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 14:00:57

Step# 14
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1122 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 14:00:58
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 14:01:47

Step# 15
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1116 mV
Stress test started!  10/01/2020 14:01:48
SOC SVI2 1.144
Thread# 17 fall down, usage 84.8%
Stress test stopped!  10/01/2020 14:02:24

Step# 16
Diagnostic VID voltage: 1122 mV


Diagnostic results:
Energy efficient: 3.61
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-Core Processor - Silver sample
Recomended values for Overclocking:
Reference frequency: 4174 MHz
Reference voltage: 1262 mV
Recomended values for Undervoolt:
Reference frequency: 4000 MHz
Reference voltage: 1175 mV

ryokoseigo:

The OC my 3950x was given uses way too low of a voltage, how would I go about letting it run the test with a higher voltage? The current reference voltage is 1206, so can I just raise this to say 1225? I know my cpu can't get to 4300+ with that low of a voltage.

I did 1250 on mine. Ive seen people do more but I got 4425 CCX 1 2 and 4250 CCX3 and 4 from it. You also have to increase the EDC limit to 140 because you'll hit the EDC limit on the CB20 run on 1250.

ryokoseigo:

No they are correct. You give up single threaded performance for this OC. The only way this will perform as well is if you can get either an all-core OC as high as your cpu's boost, or if you can get like 2 CCX's that high. But in virtually no perfect scenerio will you get higher fps in games.

Depends, I can get a solid 4.4GHz manual OC on all cores w/o opening up thresholds, which is higher than my PBO results. (3600) Tho I would need to watch each core OC with PBO more than I have to verify.

Well, I finally got into it a bit more and I can say that with the beta 2 patch it's quite a bit better--and running the diagnostics I can truthfully say it's the best tool I've ever seen for actually setting LLC. It's been great for that, actually. I would advise no one to try running the main program--the "start" button--until you've used the beta 2 software to run through the diagnostics and eliminated that "LLC needs to be raised"...or similar result in the tests. I got diagnostics to run without a single llC message, eventually, by following that instruction, and moving to the "high" LLC setting--medium wasn't enough and I kept seeing "LLC needs to be raised" until I went to the "high" setting. The actual main "start" overclocking program ran far better after that--it would eventually crash in beta 1; but in b2, with the diagnostics successfully cleared of all "llc too low"-like messages, it runs until it dies with clocks way up there. (Still trying to figure out exactly what I'm seeing here--some questions about that, for later.) I'm on a GB Aorus Master, x570, bios F30, 3900X...if I use the "turbo" setting for LLC I get messages like this in the diagnostics: "try to soften LLC. If you see this message you may safely ignore it"....;) OK, now that's not entirely clear, if you take my meaning. Anyway...once I used the diagnostics to select the correct LLC level, I like "high" or "turbo"--with "high" I get no error messages from the diagnostics--with "turbo" I get the "try to soften LLC but ignore this message"--the main program functions much better and seems to work as intended. However, from what I can see, the main value of this program so far is providing a really nice, methodical, repeatable way to investigate and properly set LLC. My preferred mode of operation is autoclocking with single-core boost running by default...I don't see much difference in overall performance between that mode and all-core overclocking sans single-core boost. I do notice however that with LLC set properly--before when looking at this variable I was just guessing--the CPU runs better than it did before in its default operation! I like that result, a lot, actually.

@Vincent Vespa why are you using sleep/hibernation? its useless for desktops (consumes power and usually hw wont last as long), can possibly brick the system if it crashes because of brown/black out, and anyone running any ryzen cpu i expect to have a ssd, so boot times arent the issue either, and as shown adds another payer of possible problems.

So either my 3600 is crap or something else is pretty wrong with my system as my tuned score is even under average 3600 score

ryokoseigo:

No they are correct. You give up single threaded performance for this OC. The only way this will perform as well is if you can get either an all-core OC as high as your cpu's boost, or if you can get like 2 CCX's that high. But in virtually no perfect scenerio will you get higher fps in games.

Only if the all-round OC with this tool is lower than what your cpu could boost to on a single core with PBO right? Because My 3600 boosted to 4.2-4.3 GHz at max in very rare instances, but mostly not going higher than 4.2ghz, while I now have 4450mhz and 4425mhz for ccx 1 and ccx2 respectively with 1.262V. My cpu now has mostly lower voltages and temps than before in most normal workloads. I did not really check my single core performance change though, as I did not have any games installed that are consistently cpu bound (quite hard to come by these days). Cinebench went from 3500 to 4000. Looks like a decent improvement for multi-core performance at least, but probably not something I will notice much, as I dont use many applications that are heavily multithreaded or utilize the cpu that much (I mostly use my pc for games).

Considering this prog in its initial release detected my R5 3600 as a platinum sample with over 6000mhz potential, I decided to give it a few more moments to mature 😀 Nice to see the 3rd version already released, thanks for a fast bug fixing and progress, may the development process be blessed 🙂

Chopsting:

Still causing PC crash when running 'Start' after 20minutes (after full successful Diagnostic run)

Unstable power supply. Some motherboards are out of reserve. If you know what frequency the failure is always on, do the following. Specify the failure frequency (-25 MHz from it) in the value "Max frequency". This will complete the process without any problems.

Dear 1usmus, If it's not too much to ask, would you please be so kind to let us know, how are the energy efficiency categories ranked ( which and when is considered bronze, silver and gold sample category)? Is it regarding speficic speeds e.g. 4300+ is silver, 4400+ is gold, or is it ranked depending on the core quality? Thank you very much in advance. Regards, NightWind

Rodaxx:



So either my 3600 is crap or something else is pretty wrong with my system as my tuned score is even under average 3600 score

How good your CPU cooler is, how well your case and its location get rid of heat and room ambient temp will affect the result. It would help to know more.