ClockTuner for Ryzen (CTR) Guide by 1USMUS

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pureivan:

3990x will be compatible?
Afraid not mate it is written in the guide article
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Kepon:

I have problems after updating ccx and apply system crashed, reboot and try to open CTR and it wont display anything or nothing happen after opening it
same here it wont run a second time but it didnt crash, i applied it and restarted. i ran benchmark after and didnt see any gains maybe i did something wrong not overclocking manually i left the 2 options do their thing in bios. https://valid.x86.fr/7tpan9
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Kepon:

I have problems after updating ccx and apply system crashed, reboot and try to open CTR and it wont display anything or nothing happen after opening it
same issues.
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Well, nice software, completely useless. Why so harsh? Well, it puts the CPU in "Manual Overclocking" mode, meaning single threaded gets cut down to whatever is the "maximum" for all-threads. My somewhat bad 3700X which in single threaded reaches 4350 with occasional blips to 4400 gets forcibly limited to 4125 by the manual settings. Yes, it can run 4100+4125 when using all 8 cores, but that use case for me is once in a blue moon. Cinebench ^UP Other softwre vDOWN ---- So, NO THANK YOU. Back to PBO.
TheSissyOfFremont:

It's telling my my 3700x is a platinum sample and to set it to 6500 odd! 😀
Same here, seems it's working poorly with 3700X.
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I did, my CPU doesn't like -offset, it just crashes. It's a dud, basically, but a dud that works at default settings (or with PBO, but not making much difference or at all) But in any case, Default/PBO that allows 1-2 threads to work at (almost) the box frequency (4.4) is better than 0.05 more than default at all cores, while losing 0.3 at single threaded. The stuff I do is mostly single/low threaded. ---- The CPU was a major upgrade compared to the old 4-core/4-thread (i5) which I had, so no complaints, even if I know I got a dud from the perspective of overclocking. Even better, it was 100% free, as a gift from my employer ^.^, so free dud better than no CPU at all :P Will upgrade to Zen3 anyway in a few months.
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@zorandesign and "who" is going to "mature" the sw, if no one uses it? lol, beta doesnt equal having problems. best proof is R6 siege, which ran better while i played closed/open beta, than it does now after being out for 5y. completely ignoring the fact that no one forces you to use it. @Phoenix616 Tried the latest bios? use efiflash with /C flag
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Wanya:

wierd if this tool is realy reducing single core perfomance what's the point of it
Not weird. Manual mode for Zen/Zen2 has always been like this, the tool is simply "lazy man's all-core overclocking + potentially undervolting", changing settings and trying them by itself (without manual operation) Everything that the tool does can be done manually as well (but as mentioned, manual mode cuts off the the single threaded boost) I guess those with threadrippers and such might benefit from it, as they bought their CPUs for running all-core workloads all day long, and they could be interested in finding the sweet spot. Those do not care about single thread performance.
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3600x. program starts but bluescreens my comp as soon as I try to do anything with it
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Dont seem to do much other than set my 3600 to 4050 and only runs once Maybe because it says reference frequency: 6525MHz
h9dlb:

3600x. program starts but bluescreens my comp as soon as I try to do anything with it
Mine did too with too old Bios "BIOS with AGESA Combo AM4 1.0.0.4 (and newer); check with CPU-Z - (download)" ***ClockTuner for Ryzen 1.0r by 1usmus*** AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor (870F10) ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. CROSSHAIR VI HERO BIOS ver. 7901 SMU ver. 46.62.00 DRAM speed 3200 MHz 09/29/2020 21:31:50 AVX light mode Cycle time: 30000 ms Reference frequency: 4050MHz Reference voltage: 1225 mV Voltage step: 6 mV Manual overclocking mode enabled Sets overclocking parameters... CCX1 Quality 127 Frequency 4050 MHz Voltage 1225 mV CCX2 Quality 116 Frequency 4050 MHz Voltage 1225 mV Step# 1 Diagnostic VID voltage: 1225 mV Stress test started! 09/29/2020 21:31:53 CPU Vdroop: -Infinity % CPU Temperature: 0° There is a need to reduce LLC! SOC SVI2 1.1 Thread# 13 fall down, usage 69.7% Stress test stopped! 09/29/2020 21:31:56 Step# 2 Diagnostic VID voltage: 1231 mV Diagnostic results: Energy efficient: 3.29 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor - Platinum sample Recomended values for Overclocking: Reference frequency: 6525 MHz Reference voltage: 1275 mV Recomended values for Undervoolt: Reference frequency: 6350 MHz Reference voltage: 1175 mV AVX Light mode Cycle time: 240000 ms Reference frequency: 6525 MHz CCX delta: 50 MHz Reference voltage: 1275 mV Target voltage: 1275 mV Max frequency higher than reference frequency! Cinebench 20 started Cinebench 20 finished with result: 3498 Voltage: 0 V PPT: 0 W Temperature: 0° AVX light mode Cycle time: 30000 ms Reference frequency: 4050MHz Reference voltage: 1225 mV Voltage step: 6 mV Manual overclocking mode enabled Sets overclocking parameters... CCX1 Quality 127 Frequency 4050 MHz Voltage 1225 mV CCX2 Quality 116 Frequency 4050 MHz Voltage 1225 mV Step# 1 Diagnostic VID voltage: 1225 mV Stress test started! 09/29/2020 21:43:32 CPU Vdroop: -Infinity % CPU Temperature: 0° There is a need to reduce LLC! SOC SVI2 1.1 Thread# 13 fall down, usage 15.2% Stress test stopped! 09/29/2020 21:43:35 Step# 2 Diagnostic VID voltage: 1231 mV Diagnostic results: Energy efficient: 3.29 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor - Bronze sample Recomended values for Overclocking: Reference frequency: -5450 MHz Reference voltage: 1275 mV Recomended values for Undervoolt: Reference frequency: -5650 MHz Reference voltage: 1175 mV
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This tool is fine if all you do is AVX workloads across all the cores but it really limits the cores overall perf with too small a delta between the worst ccx and the best. With everything loaded on my 3950x it went from 8890 to 9917 on my CB20 score after tweaking I actually went a bit further and upped the ref voltage to 1.250 giving me 4425 on CCD1 closed all the programs and did another run got 10221(edited) what im most impressed about is the thermals im now getting for having a fixed oc but im not overly comfortable with having a fixed oc on this regardless of thermals. So Im going to try pbo again with an offset voltage
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i have all the requirements and the program don't open
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@Phoenix616 use rufus to make a bootable usb (use freedos) and copy efiflash.exe and the bios. boot from stick to dos and try again. i renamed the bios file to x570.Fxx for mine. to make it easier and shorter to type in. make sure to load defaults after reboot, save and reboot again. i would run memtest v8.4 for full 4 cycles to make sure ram rans fine ( i needed to add 0.01v to make it "stable", vs V on previous bios).
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curlym:

On my system I have gone from benchmark of 3259 to 3703- 13.6% increase. Just using default settings for my Ryzen 3600
It just overclocked your system. Thst could be done in the bios.
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kendoka15:

So what are your CB20 single thread scores compared to before?
I was on a PBO 300 230 1 and my top clock was 4.775/750mhz on Core 1/2 before. on Core 3 and 4 and CCX 2 4.675. Now with the tool Im at 4425 on CCX1 and 2 and 4200 CCX3 and 4250 CCX4 (Despite CCX3 being higher quality apparently because I know Core 9 is the worst on my cpu) On CB15 I went from 215 to 206 so not a massive drop considering how much voltage drop I have and thermals CB15 multi I am 60 points shy at 4480 of my all time record where I was going after the best so my clocks were more than AVX limits. CB20 Single I am down to 510 so far from 537 but multi is a great boost going from 9917 to 10221.
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Seems like the proggy needs work...;) My "silver sample" 3900X won't complete the C20 CPU bench because it stops rendering the stress test when the CPU hits 80.1C...;) Result = 0. Outside the program, the C20 test runs to completion no problems. The temp limit for the 3900X is 95C--program needs work. I don't *think* I'm looking at this the wrong way, but....
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waltc3:

Seems like the proggy needs work...;) My "silver sample" 3900X won't complete the C20 CPU bench because it stops rendering the stress test when the CPU hits 80.1C...;) Result = 0. Outside the program, the C20 test runs to completion no problems. The temp limit for the 3900X is 95C--program needs work. I don't *think* I'm looking at this the wrong way, but....
You know you can increase the temp max and the power max? Ive pushed mine https://i.imgur.com/2TGPN6S.png
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Worked well on my Asus X570 TUF, r5 3600. I reset BIOS to default and set LLC to 3 and XMP per the guide. Cleared Sys Logs in Win10 to be safe. Downloaded CB20 and dropped it in the CB20 CTR folder Diagnostic showed silver sample, 4300Mhz 1275Mv with 4100Mhz 1175Mv undervolt. After running the OC I landed at 4250Mhz 1275mv. The hard part was realizing Dram Calc and CTR gains together. I had to leave all configs as is except for DDR voltage. Trying to modify power settings for LLC etc. Per Dram calc's suggested values was a performance hit. Some takeaways: - very sensitive to temperature thresholds which was supported in the guide with Gamers Nexus frequency to temp scaling graph. You'll want your pump at 100% and fans running at high RPM to see good gains from CTR, which was highlighted in the guide as well. 1usmis noted that AIOs and Open air do not perform as well for full stability OCs compared to custom water solutions.
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WhiskeyOmega:

You know you can increase the temp max and the power max? Ive pushed mine https://i.imgur.com/2TGPN6S.png
In my dotage I feel I'm going blind...;) Right in front of me...! Thank you very much!
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The guide is for under-volting and better efficiency... If you want to overclock, don't set the CPU vCore to Auto but use a beefy positive offset and compensate playing with the LLC. Set the ref frequency 25 MHz higher than your target and ref voltage to 1350 to test. Lowering the LLC will compensate too high voltage under load. Great results so far 😀
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Well i am going to try it anyway on a r5 2600 just for giggles. Will report back soon.