I noticed a month ago that the latest BIOS for my Crosshair VI Hero (WiFi-ac) was only just over 10MB in size. Makes me wonder why MSI and other vendors have BIOSes that are filling up their 16MB chips...
I noticed a month ago that the latest BIOS for my Crosshair VI Hero (WiFi-ac) was only just over 10MB in size. Makes me wonder why MSI and other vendors have BIOSes that are filling up their 16MB chips...
thats just the rom image, the firmware requires more than this in operation.
So Asus is really there for customer care and upgrades, but the X570 loses Bristol Ridge, and Ryzen 1 support ?
The B450 only loses Bristol Ridge, and all the others are fine.
What is so different about the X570 Bios that they have to kill two whole processor lines ?
Its a niche case for a Ryzen 1 owner to get an X570, but if he's upgrading to Ryzen 3xxx series, he might want to use the Ryzen 1 to update the Bios ? Or Wait until the X3900/3950 shows itself ?
Wonder what the size of their X570 Bios chip is....
(I have an Asus B450M Pro-Gaming....not flinging poo at Asus for the kicks 😉)
edit : As Huggi rightly states below, X570 was never intended to have Ryzen 1 or Bristol Ridge. My bad brain fart, complete bollox.
its probably not economical to test cpu's that would never be used in an x570.
all x570's come with cpu support for 3k chips, how good or bad it is is just a matter of the agesa version.
thats just the rom image, the firmware requires more than this in operation.
So downloaded file is basically compressed? To be honest, I don't really know how BIOS installation works... I just download the file, flash it, then use it.
In any case, it seems that ASUS doesn't have the BIOS size issues that some other manufacturers have had which is a good thing for ASUS users I guess.
Evildead666:
So Asus is really there for customer care and upgrades, but the X570 loses Bristol Ridge, and Ryzen 1 support ?
The B450 only loses Bristol Ridge, and all the others are fine.
What is so different about the X570 Bios that they have to kill two whole processor lines ?
Its a niche case for a Ryzen 1 owner to get an X570, but if he's upgrading to Ryzen 3xxx series, he might want to use the Ryzen 1 to update the Bios ? Or Wait until the X3900/3950 shows itself ?
Wonder what the size of their X570 Bios chip is....
(I have an Asus B450M Pro-Gaming....not flinging poo at Asus for the kicks 😉)
I'm fairly certain that's not ASUS' fault since it was AMD who decided not to include Ryzen 1000 series support on the X570 chipset. Every X570 motherboard, regardless of brand, has this issue.
old bios were a small flash rom with a battery backed cmos chip for settings storage
uefi is a firmware package that runs like its own mini os, and while some settings may still get stored in a chip that can have its battery removed, there are other parts of it that are saved to the Flash chip and also that log aspects of the uefi itself.
asus for instance save their oc profiles onto the flash rom so that cmos clears don't wipe them entirely.
So downloaded file is basically compressed? To be honest, I don't really know how BIOS installation works... I just download the file, flash it, then use it.
In any case, it seems that ASUS doesn't have the BIOS size issues that some other manufacturers have had which is a good thing for ASUS users I guess.
I'm fairly certain that's not ASUS' fault since it was AMD who decided not to include Ryzen 1000 series support on the X570 chipset. Every X570 motherboard, regardless of brand, has this issue.
Yeah, a complete fu*k up on my part.
Was reading a computing mag in the train on the way home after a b'stard day at work, and there was the AMD slide with the chipsets, and X570 not having Ryzen 1 or Bristol Ridge.
It had slipped my memory.
I have become my worst enemy, lol 🙂
well this further confirms that ASUS software team is doing a better job, in my experience gigabyte's interface is a disgrace and even buggy with sleep states, but then asus has this driver rootkit thing...
well this further confirms that ASUS software team is doing a better job, in my experience gigabyte's interface is a disgrace and even buggy with sleep states, but then asus has this driver rootkit thing...
As a Gigabyte X370 K7 owner I have to agree. At least i'm not in the BIOS allto often because its a non-intuitive pain. With that said it has been rock stable.
well this further confirms that ASUS software team is doing a better job, in my experience gigabyte's interface is a disgrace and even buggy with sleep states, but then asus has this driver rootkit thing...
I agree, clear bios are ASUS and MSI (more bling bling but as good), Gigabyte are average and Asrock are a bit messy despite it work fine... For the last 2 it doesn't mean bad quality of the motherboard that are very good, only less nice bioses.
So Asus is really there for customer care and upgrades, but the X570 loses Bristol Ridge, and Ryzen 1 support ? The B450 only loses Bristol Ridge, and all the others are fine. What is so different about the X570 Bios that they have to kill two whole processor lines ? Its a niche case for a Ryzen 1 owner to get an X570, but if he's upgrading to Ryzen 3xxx series, he might want to use the Ryzen 1 to update the Bios ? Or Wait until the X3900/3950 shows itself ? Wonder what the size of their X570 Bios chip is.... (I have an Asus B450M Pro-Gaming....not flinging poo at Asus for the kicks 😉)edit : As Huggi rightly states below, X570 was never intended to have Ryzen 1 or Bristol Ridge. My bad brain fart, complete bollox.