Good in depth review Boss , thank you. I wonder why they used such relax timings on Samsung B-die based memory modules ? , perhaps it might be a safety net and they can used this same timings with Micron or Hynix AFR based ics if they cannot source enough Sammy's B-die in the future for this Ram kits 😉 my best bet as they could have used Cas14 on those DDR4-3200Mhz kits. Looks , i'm not a fan of the Bright Christmas tree RGB thing or the claw looks of it , but to each it's own. They could have squeezed more performance on that xmp profile 😏, that's performance left on the table for the non tech savy people who don't overclock and just want plug and play.

Not my review, it's from Chris. But he'll be happy to answer any concerns.

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Not my review, it's from Chris. But he'll be happy to answer any concerns.

Thanks for the clarification Hilbert.

chispy:

Good in depth review Boss , thank you. I wonder why they used such relax timings on Samsung B-die based memory modules ? , perhaps it might be a safety net and they can used this same timings with Micron or Hynix AFR based ics if they cannot source enough Sammy's B-die in the future for this Ram kits 😉 my best bet as they could have used Cas14 on those DDR4-3200Mhz kits. Looks , i'm not a fan of the Bright Christmas tree RGB thing or the claw looks of it , but to each it's own. They could have squeezed more performance on that xmp profile 😏, that's performance left on the table for the non tech savy people who don't overclock and just want plug and play.

Apacer and Adata always used more relaxed timings, guess to play it safe and to have that extra "OC" headroom and of course what you said hynx vs samsung.

Infinity Stones

chispy:

Good in depth review Boss , thank you. I wonder why they used such relax timings on Samsung B-die based memory modules ? , perhaps it might be a safety net and they can used this same timings with Micron or Hynix AFR based ics if they cannot source enough Sammy's B-die in the future for this Ram kits 😉 my best bet as they could have used Cas14 on those DDR4-3200Mhz kits. Looks , i'm not a fan of the Bright Christmas tree RGB thing or the claw looks of it , but to each it's own. They could have squeezed more performance on that xmp profile 😏, that's performance left on the table for the non tech savy people who don't overclock and just want plug and play.

Hey @chispy . I'm the reviewer of this kit. @-Tj- already clarified it (at least it's still valid for Apacer). It's the third Apacer kit that I had an experience with and all had quite relaxed timings. Even in this series the 3000 MHz one has CL16 (sic!), but probably without Samsung B-Die. I was surprised to see the usage of these memory chips here, but it was a pleasant one. Also the OC results speak for themselves, right? (even on quite mediocre motherboard) EDIT https://consumer.apacer.com/eng/content.php?sn=961 - max is 3000 MHz with CL16 for the illuminated predecessor.

Captain_Hook:

Hey @chispy . I'm the reviewer of this kit. @-Tj- already clarified it (at least it's still valid for Apacer). It's the third Apacer kit that I had an experience with and all had quite relaxed timings. Even in this series the 3000 MHz one has CL16 (sic!), but probably without Samsung B-Die. I was surprised to see the usage of these memory chips here, but it was a pleasant one. Also the OC results speak for themselves, right? (even on quite mediocre motherboard) EDIT https://consumer.apacer.com/eng/content.php?sn=961 - max is 3000 MHz with CL16 for the illuminated predecessor.

Thanks for the in depth review. Me too i was surprised to see Samsung B-die ( i expected Hynix or Micron ics ) on such kit with those relax timings but nevertheless quite a positive experience you had overclocking this kit 🙂 . I'm glad you ran Thaiphoon Burner and the memory ics were exposed , that shows the in depth of your review as this bits of information are needed to understand the memory kit OC potential.

Rex Lajos:

"For our test, Apacer supplied a dual (2 x 8GB) black DDR4 kit rated at 3200 MHz with CL16 (nominal for this frequency), which is ideal for Z370 systems (quad-channel)." My first post here. Didn't think z370 had quad channel support.

You got a good eye, my bad.