I like very much mini led monitors. They excel in HDR and are a good compromise between traditional monitors and Oled. In Europe sadly the price will be higher, and close to Oled, witch will make it less attractive.

Nice, VA too

tsunami231:

Nice, VA too

Yuck VA? There goes my interest in it 🙁. I was excited at first too, as it looked like a good deal.

Not everyone like IPS just like not everyone like VA, I will never buy an IPS monitor for person use ever. I like the Fact it VA seeing VA monitor are rare and good one even more so, IPS monitor are dime a dozen now

tsunami231:

Not everyone like IPS just like not everyone like VA, I will never buy an IPS monitor for person use ever. I like the Fact it VA seeing VA monitor are rare and good one even more so, IPS monitor are dime a dozen now

Seems we're on opposite ends, after my experience with my 240Hz Samsung Odyssey whatever model (the HDR600 27" VA), I'd never consider a VA again over an IPS. I've moved onto OLED, but VA is forever a stain in my memory.

Neo Cyrus:

Seems we're on opposite ends, after my experience with my 240Hz Samsung Odyssey whatever model (the HDR600 27" VA), I'd never consider a VA again over an IPS. I've moved onto OLED, but VA is forever a stain in my memory.

hence i said what i said.Most VA monitors are using bad panels that really slow and tons overshoot and overshot makes smear on them worse.

I've a mini-led iPad, they're at 10,000 leds covering 13 inches. If you look at it slightly at an angle the blooming starts becoming awful. The panel is IPS. In terms of color accuracy these ipads are literally calibrated to hell and back. Their panels are cherry picked. Knowing all that, knowing how that panel looks and runs at 120hz, reading here "32 inches VA 240hz mini-led with 4600 leds" that costs 650$. That is like.. one red flag after another. Even though the iPad is mastered by apple to manage those leds as perfectly as it can, near-dark stuff are usually just black. I've a PG32UCDM to compare it to and damn.. per-pixel control is the only way, I don't think there's an amount of zones that will mitigate that issue. Maybe if the zones are like 1/4th of the pixels' count is a dirty workaround, or 1/8th.. mby 1/16th? But if 10,000 leds at 13 inches are not good, imagine 4600 at 32. It's less zones at more inches. Won't even get into ips vs va. I'll have kids until micro-led is a thing.. and by that time ill be so numb to all of this it wont even matter. Pretty saddening.

The question here is not if mini led are perfect, they are not. The question is if they are placed at a price point that makes them a valid alternative to overpriced OLED monitors. For my use, single player games mostly, with focus on HDR, my mini led even with 1000 dimming zones , does a far far better work than any IPS/VA edge lit monitor. It does not reach OLED quality, but costs half , no burn in, and in HDR in some scenarios is superior. There is a market for everyone, and I see mini LEDs, untill better options appear,to have a place in it if priced properly, wich they seem to start to be. And VA , in my experience, gets to much hate undeservly.

pedropaulo:

The question here is not if mini led are perfect, they are not. The question is if they are placed at a price point that makes them a valid alternative to overpriced OLED monitors. For my use, single player games mostly, with focus on HDR, my mini led even with 1000 dimming zones , does a far far better work than any IPS/VA edge lit monitor. It does not reach OLED quality, but costs half , no burn in, and in HDR in some scenarios is superior. There is a market for everyone, and I see mini LEDs, untill better options appear,to have a place in it if priced properly, wich they seem to start to be. And VA , in my experience, gets to much hate undeservly.

Most VA monitor hate is a fair assessment. The majority of VA panels are very slow compared to IPS, ghost, and response times are generally worse. Having had two VA panels as a main and spare monitor, as far as motion clarity for gaming is concerned, they’re unusable.

rv8000:

Most VA monitor hate is a fair assessment. The majority of VA panels are very slow compared to IPS, ghost, and response times are generally worse. Having had two VA panels as a main and spare monitor, as far as motion clarity for gaming is concerned, they’re unusable.

Agree But by the same optic a glow from an IPS can be cumbersome, as well the very poor contrast, black are greys. And those two things bother me a lot, to the point that i dont want to uses them for my specific purpose.

Apples IPS panel they use are only IPS panel I like cause they have zero ips glow. If they can do so can monitor makers but they dont. IPS glow + horrid black level make that glow worse and there make IPS panels unusable to me. My UHDTV is VA that faster then most monitor VA and it has no overshoot so black smear is almost non existent and it response time is better then my TN monitor. Motion clarity is crap on all ips/tn/va panel compared to crt, oled is only thing that come close to crt in that regard as far a i concerned and flatpanel tech actual need that 120hz and higher to close the gap. which bring other issue you actual need pay gpu that push those frames to get the clarity. it va,tn,oled and oled is off table cause priced to high imo STILL 20 something years later. I will never touch ips till ips glow is fixed and black level arnt trash like said ips glow and black level being so bad make ips glow worse to my eyes I would like to see 27 version of this mini led from aoc though

tsunami231:

hence i said what i said.Most VA monitors are using bad panels that really slow and tons overshoot and overshot makes smear on them worse.

I'm aware, but that Samsung Odyssey I had was always praised for being (at the time) "the only" VA that didn't have dark level smearing. I never encountered that. What I hated about it, was the way it made everything look more pixelated/lower resolution than it actually was compared to an IPS regardless of its sharpness level, even if turned down to "blurry mess" level, combined with the dogshit viewing angles. IPS panels just look like clearer/less pixelated, & more coherent to me, & not being nearly as annoyed with the viewing angles is a big bonus. But I'm never going back from OLED anyway; I'd only consider switching to something that's practically new technology even if it's based on old tech, like nano LED IPS displays once they're significantly faster (or something along those lines) if those come to market. And I'd only consider something like that to not have to worry about burn-in.

Wake me up when we start seeing 30k+ dimming zones on those.

Neo Cyrus:

I'm aware, but that Samsung Odyssey I had was always praised for being (at the time) "the only" VA that didn't have dark level smearing. I never encountered that. What I hated about it, was the way it made everything look more pixelated/lower resolution than it actually was compared to an IPS regardless of its sharpness level, even if turned down to "blurry mess" level, combined with the dogshit viewing angles. IPS panels just look like clearer/less pixelated, & more coherent to me, & not being nearly as annoyed with the viewing angles is a big bonus. But I'm never going back from OLED anyway; I'd only consider switching to something that's practically new technology even if it's based on old tech, like nano LED IPS displays once they're significantly faster (or something along those lines) if those come to market. And I'd only consider something like that to not have to worry about burn-in.

dont know but if monitor I thinking of Rting has review for and it had significant over shoot in all it modes. but like said everyone is diffrent in what the willing to put with it. When I was comparing those ips monitor i tried to my tv that is va I prefer tv over ips despite the fact monitor where 27" vs 55 tv and thing where much sharper on the monitor cause ppi greater. With out glasses i cant see monitor or my tv but with i see perfectly fine. and to me ips worst of bunch as far me and my eyes go. Would love oled but price still to much and fact the monitor manufacture have always charged way more then tv bigger then them dont help matters. all flat panel tech hot dog shit to me when come to motion handling I talking 60hz crt vs 60hz flat panel tech. the flat panel need higher hz to just close the gap even then it dont match it to me and my eyes. and I not willing to go the road 120+ hz cause I then have pay extra for gpu to push that frame rate and then deal with more heat generated too.