AMD wants stores to sell a maximum of one RX 6000 video card per customer

tunejunky

2020-10-21 16:44

this is a good idea... but i can count the etailers worthy of such trust on one hand. Newegg, Amazon, and one or two others. imho, the real sorting out will be mid November before Black Friday. the signs are good that supply should be plentiful, with only customs as a bottleneck (for USA). the ACID TEST is the refilling of secondary ordering into the sales channel. it's a guarantee that miners and content creators will snap up the first orders from etailers. AMD has been down this road before, the last time they were just happy to be there (cash flow y'know) and happy to sell to anyone. This time, they have market altering objectives so they'll need more than miners, they'll need hard core gamers. both the Egg and Amazon have features to show when stock (on order) will arrive, this gives people some peace of mind. every authorized etailer knows full well the demand levels, let's see if they ordered (from AMD/AIB's) as heavily as AMD will allow.

#5845130

Kaarme

2020-10-21 17:25

Goiur:

By my book they are making AMD look good, so i dont get why they leak this lol

schmidtbag:

I was thinking the same thing.

Scalpers don't hate the manufacturers. They obviously love them, otherwise they would be out of income themselves. However, they still need information to be able to acquire their wares. By leaking the letter, they ensure all scalpers can get ready for a potentially more challenging situation. You'd think one scalper helping another would be stupid, but in reality they aren't all competing, they are from all around the world, so they can share techniques with each other. I bet many of them are just script kiddies, not developing their own tools and methods.

#5845131

alanm

2020-10-21 17:29

kapu:

At least AMD is doing something . Nvidia just put it lose ....

They would not be doing this without the hindsight of what happened to Nvidia.

#5845142

kapu

2020-10-21 17:56

alanm:

They would not be doing this without the hindsight of what happened to Nvidia.

They could also ignore it , like Intel ignored fans for many years (and milked them ). They want to use that situation to their advantage, right now it won't be who has the fastest GPU , but rather who has GPU for sale at all, and everything points that amd will be in much better situation than nvidia .

#5845147

fantaskarsef

2020-10-21 18:13

Well played AMD marketing department, seized the opportunity for good news at no cost or risk whatsoever 😀

#5845212

Crazy Serb

2020-10-21 20:52

I think keywords from in there are "identify/block known malicious bots". If that list is as long as their known issues from drivers, good luck getting RDNA2 cards in the next few months.

#5845223

Goiur

2020-10-21 21:16

Kaarme:

Scalpers don't hate the manufacturers. They obviously love them, otherwise they would be out of income themselves. However, they still need information to be able to acquire their wares. By leaking the letter, they ensure all scalpers can get ready for a potentially more challenging situation. You'd think one scalper helping another would be stupid, but in reality they aren't all competing, they are from all around the world, so they can share techniques with each other. I bet many of them are just script kiddies, not developing their own tools and methods.

As it happens in security, you cant avoid being hacked if the hacker wants to F you, but you have to make the gain/time not worth it. If you force every scalper to lose 5/10 min per card bought using whatever means they want or can use. Thats a win.

#5845337

sykozis

2020-10-22 07:23

panogr:

Great idea , but they should also send this to MSI 😉

MSI was one of the scalpers with the NVidia launch.... Wouldn't be surprised to see them try it again.

#5845456

Embra

2020-10-22 13:08

All cards will be higher than the msrp. Retailers will take advantage of the limited supply or lack of supply (NV), it's easy $$ for them. I think it smart for AMD to make the request, but that is all that it is.

#5845617

Astyanax

2020-10-22 21:33

sykozis:

MSI was one of the scalpers with the NVidia launch.... Wouldn't be surprised to see them try it again.

don't be surprised if amd restricts chips to msi 😛

#5847267

Dazz

2020-10-27 21:38

Lets see how it goes, can't be any worse than nVidias maximum number of zero per order. My nephew ordered a ASUS TUF RTX 3800, when he ordered he was 1840 in the queue, he is now 1007 and has been also month.

#5847286

Mufflore

2020-10-27 22:45

Dazz:

Lets see how it goes, can't be any worse than nVidias maximum number of zero per order. My nephew ordered a ASUS TUF RTX 3800, when he ordered he was 1840 in the queue, he is now 1007 and has been also month.

That must be the year 2400, RTX 3800 isnt out yet 😉 You're lucky. I asked Ebuyer in the UK if they could tell us our queue position, I was completely blanked, we have no chance here. My original expected delivery date was end of Sept, now with zero information moving forward. It isnt going to happen. I expect to not buy a card until the refresh next year, and it wont be from Ebuyer, useless f***s.

#5847341

Neo Cyrus

2020-10-28 02:51

TheDeeGee:

But what's stopping someone from ordering on a friends account at a different address?

Nothing, but that makes it a pain in the ass if it has to be done one by one manually due to being multiple orders interrupted by gatchas that can't be solved by shitty AI. Gives time for non-scalpers to order some.

#5848087

Dazz

2020-10-29 00:25

Mufflore:

That must be the year 2400, RTX 3800 isnt out yet 😉 You're lucky. I asked Ebuyer in the UK if they could tell us our queue position, I was completely blanked, we have no chance here. My original expected delivery date was end of Sept, now with zero information moving forward. It isnt going to happen. I expect to not buy a card until the refresh next year, and it wont be from Ebuyer, useless f***s.

Hardly lucky, one the card is for my nephew and not me, and two because he is an idiot he sold his RTX 2070 Super before the announcement and had nothing to use. He harassed me to loan my RTX 2080 so i have been unable to use my main system. Lucky i have Lenovo Legion 5P Laptop which has a Ryzen 4800U 16GB Ram, 1.25 TB SSD and a RTX 2060. In all honesty i was going to see how the New Radeons where going to be like then make a decision. Looks like it maybe the right call as the 6800XT does look impressive, considering it was meant to go up against the RTX 3070.

#5852822

NesteaZen

2020-11-10 06:19

so. zen 3 launch. huh? how's ebay treating you. @Neo Cyrus @Fox2232

#5852885

Goiur

2020-11-10 10:08

Fox2232:

Whatever it was, you wanted to push, sorry. I am not e-bay dumb. Zen3 availability changes every day in local shops. Right now, there are enough of 5800X at MSRP. Right now, I could have ordered 5600X with "within 24h delivery" time (MSRP too). And next batch is expected on 15th. Same as above applies to 5950X. At this moment, only thing which can't be obtained "fast" through normal channels is 5900X.

Not true for Spain. The biggest etailer, and ofc the smaller ones, have nothing. You cant buy any 5000 series and no availability dates either.

#5852890

emperorsfist

2020-11-10 10:13

Goiur:

Not true for Spain. The biggest etailer, and ofc the smaller ones, have nothing. You cant buy any 5000 series and no availability dates either.

Similar in the Czech Republic. The two biggest IT shops are sold out, except one just got some 5800s. The rest are gone or not available.

#5852893

suty455

2020-11-10 10:22

emperorsfist:

Similar in the Czech Republic. The two biggest IT shops are sold out, except one just got some 5800s. The rest are gone or not available.

I dont think thats unusual for the most anticipated CPU launch ever, truth is lots of us have spent most of the year working from home with balooning bank balances because we cant go out to spend it so lots of folks right now who have been lucky enough to stay in employment have money to burn and time on their hands, its a perfect storm for new launches and availability.

#5852939

Goiur

2020-11-10 11:29

Fox2232:

You live in same EU as I do. Unless you want to claim that EU puts Spain into some logistics disadvantages and embargoes you. In shopping, we have equal opportunity. But we here do not practice siesta. At least not productive part of nation.

Nice racist statement mate lol and not, im not claiming anything like it. I dont practice siesta either... still waiting for that link for a 5900 on a EU store with EU shipping. PS: looks like you are having some personal issues because of the way to reply... maybe you should take a break.

#5852983

Goiur

2020-11-10 13:06

Fox2232:

No, sorry, no racism. How did you even got to that word? I thought people have dictionary these days. It is just that you make really big target. And that's really hard to miss. All I do is putting your needlessly negative comments into perspective. I am not here to pack chip and deliver it to your house, nor to do your homework. Or supply services which your local/country shops did not facilitate for you. EU's market is same for you and myself. And you had and have equal opportunity. I had opportunity to whine here for a week too, if I wanted. Or I could have had any of those chips as long as I wanted them. But I did not want them. Maybe you can invest all that time and effort into something productive or something that will get you chip you want. Or you can continue screaming: "It's paper launch, because I said so!" And I can as well continue to view your behavior as childish tantrum. And react as nicely as I would to child that has no self control. But children can learn and change... mostly.

I need no perspective, i had no chance to get a 5900 and like i told you before, you failed to deliver a link to a 5900 on launch day. I looked for them but had no luck with shipping and obviously i wont pay more because i can, so i can vent and curse anything and anyone i want. You dont see anyone at fault here, i think things could be done better on AMD side. Agree to disagree and move on. Tell me how is called aiming for that "siesta" thing just because i told you about spain then, was i supposed to be sleeping on launch day? or was the shop owner who was sleep? or... what are you trying to pull there?. Good you want to backtrack on that, but my friend, you clearly showed your hand there and its a bad one. Maybe you can learn from your own statement and change... if you can. I can do more than one thing at a time, so while i use my time to talk to you, im talking with different stores to. You can see my behavior as childish, good for you, im just pissed that AMD did not deliver enough stock. Just ignore my post and move on.