AMD Unveils Radeon RX 7700 XT and 7800 XT Graphics cards at $449 and $499 and FSR3 update
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wavetrex
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-chief-confirms-radeon-rx-7000-rdna3-portfolio-is-now-complete-no-more-skus-planned
Apparently this is all we'll get from this gen.
A quintet of lame underpowered products... (not that nvidia is any better, with the exception of 4090)
I guess chiplets were too hard to do with current tech, but I'm sure they'll be resurrected soon enough !
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Looking forward for new GPUs in 2024 !
Undying
I was expecting maybe 7600xt to be also introduced as well in the future but it seems this is it.
Aluminium Can
No clue what people were expecting when the cards will be close to their 6000 series in capability alreeady, must be a critical thinking issue.
Undying
I think its a missed opportunity to release lower tier card rdna3 card with 12gb vram (299-320$) like 7600xt.
H83
I disagree. I think AMD did well to clear RDNA2 stock first, specially to avoid burning their partners in the proccess.
AMD is simply doing the same as Nvidia, offering GPUs that are merginally better than their predecessors, nothing more.
After all, we can`t spoil gamers, right...
AMD is more concerned with selling better marging products, like EPYC CPUs, than GPUs for gamers, just like Nvidia.
So, no point in releasing great GPUs...
tunejunky
not at all, mcm was a smashing success
the fact that the 79xx stack performs as well as it does and at a lower price than Nvidia completely validates the approach
why on Earth would a unbiased buyer buy a 4070ti or a 4080? RT isn't all that and is only found in a small percentage of games.
dlss shouldn't even come into the discussion at their price points.
despite the advantage of sales channels, the 79xx stack is selling well - better than the 4080 and 4070ti
it is very telling that the top sellers of Lovelace are the 4090 and 4060 - and the 4060 now has competition
wavetrex
The only reason why XTX and XT are selling well is because nvidia's line is outrageously expensive.
It doesn't mean that the AMD cards are cheap, by any stretch of imagination.
Actually, the performance/price barely moved at all (when ignoring the stupid unjustifiable price of 6900XT/6950XT)
It's also probably why the new cards presented now are going to sell well as well, because similar performance from NV is also outrageously expensive, not because the cards are BETTER than what came before them.
So, no, I stand by my previous statement, this MCM stuff is, so far, a failure, inefficient, not faster, expensive to produce.
But okay, it's first attempt at it. I'm sure they'll do it better with next one. When ?... That is anyone's guess, I'm pretty sure not even AMD knows when they can get that shiet right...
Horus-Anhur
Zen, be it on the consumer or the professional market, proved that chiplet design is a great solution.
It has some caveats, but it also has some strong advantages.
That is why Intel and NVidia are also developing their own tech.
On RDNA3, the results weren't amazing but it still helped lower production costs.
RDNA3, as an architecture is not great. But that is not because of the L3 cache.
wavetrex
We're talking strictly about GPUs here.
The requirements are very, VERY different compared to a CPU.
Yes Zen is nice and got nicer and nicer as time passed, and the first iteration with multiple chips on Threadripper 1 had horrible latency ... but now it's going pretty damn well.
So, my hopes to replicate the miracle on GPUs is still there. It just didn't happen this round...
Yeah, pretty much. Whatever it is wrong with it, I hope they fix it for next round.
TLD LARS
There is nothing wrong with the 7900XTX really, it now costs closer to a 4070ti card then a 4080 where I live and the 7900XTX will in worst case tie with a 4070ti with RT on, in most other situations it will beat the 4070ti or even the much more expensive 4080 in some games without RT on.
The 7900XTX will age much more gracefully then the 4070ti with 12GB memory, games are already at 8-13GB memory.
user1
main issue with rdna 3 remains as power consumption, similar to vega, tons of clock headroom ,but the power envelope has to be huge in order for it to stretch its legs. ceiling for the stock amd voltage/power curve is 3.4-3.5ghz on rdna 3 , but at more than double the power consumption of 2.5ghz.
Silva
Good to see the price coming down, but still far from great.
The 7600 are DOA in my opinion, I'd rather get 6700XT for a few € more.
Expecting the prices to lower a bit more, so I'll wait.
Conan The Barbarian
At least GPU prices have been gradually coming down this year. Along with CPU's, NVME, and DDR4 memory it's not a bad time to build a new system at a reasonable price.
jose2016
Waiting for reviews to see the actual performance and consumption.
tunejunky
you couldn't be more wrong in fact.
clearly you haven't been in manufacturing/engineering.
the "high cost" of the mcm gpu's are a function of being the first generation. in reality the cost is superlatively low compared to the competition and about to be lower - which is the way electronics manufacture works. the 2nd generation product will already have far lower costs of engineering and manufacture and will have aggressively lower pricing, with the third being more so - at which point Nvidia and Intel will have their 1st gen mcm on the market.
barbacot
So, fake frames for the masses.
Now, at least, AMD fanboys will stop laughing about nvidia fake frames and boast about how much cheaper, beautiful and digitally awesome amd fake frames are!!!
But wait, there's more: ...and even without dedicated hardware!!!:p
AMD ATI "ryze" again - fake or not fakeo_O
AuerX
We'll hear about how AMD fake frames only get better with time, like fine wine......forever....
(Until AMD sells off the Radeon division to the Chinese, And then we start seeing Radeon alarm clocks on Amazon)
tsunami231
ATI/AMD what you want to call them i still instinctively call them ATI I had the few time like twice and pleasure of dealing with both time were worrible experiences. but I think of seriously getting 7800xt the price is right but depend on but peformance is consider how much more wattage it uses
tunejunky
not quite.
i'm no fan of fg from anyone as all my postings would indicate. this is clearly an improvement of their "me too" product, after all imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
but the dedicated hardware is coming, particularly for RT. there was a clear intent to their purchase of Xilinx to use their fgpa technology as a force multiplier. it's already being deployed on many levels. on the consumer level the 1st employment is the Phoenix Point apu.
all ryzen 4 and most radeon 8xxx will have dedicated fgpa's on die. for ryzen 4 it's for ai, for radeon it's for rt and "super" fsr
i don't believe in fake frames/dlss/fsr for enthusiast level products. i realize the utility at the low to midrange considering inflationary costs.
anything that improves existing gpus is not bad. in fact that was one of my quibbles with dlss 3 for all of the owners of late model high end Nvidia gpus.
AuerX
The only thing that matters to me is the end result I see on my Monitor.
If I like it, It's irrelevant how it was achieved and by whom. I'll buy it.
Aren't we all like that?
