AMD to cut thousands of jobs

#4430340

lucidus

2012-10-13 13:52

It's the management that needs to go.

#4430366

alanm

2012-10-13 14:27

The thing is, if AMD goes out of business then Nvidia will end up fully dominating the market which means, higher prices, and no one that can offer and alternative.

Not necessarily. When companies "die" they usually get broken up and sold. Hopefully AMDs GPU business would look enticing for the likes of Intel. Dont know who would be interested in their CPU business since its a tough one manage competitively.

#4430384

lucidus

2012-10-13 14:44

They might just end up getting more funds from Abu Dhabi. Meh, lazy management.

#4430416

GhostXL

2012-10-13 16:01

IMHO this mess came about when people started to treat GPU Brands as Football Teams. Instead of going for best bank for buck without gimmicks, people just buy a card because it has a certain name on it. I know people will argue this because they have nothing better to do, but it's my opinion and it will stand no matter what you say. It's something I have noticed in many forums over the years. I may not post in those other forums myself, but I read through them.

#4430466

Q6600

2012-10-13 17:42

amd cpu`s had my support years ago, I go where the performance is, as far as cpu`s go they do not deserve my hard earned money

+1:banana:

#4430483

ClockClocker

2012-10-13 18:01

Maybe AMD should just quit producing CPU's and Focus on GPU's Intel Vs Amd is not a war amd could win. While Nvidia vs AMD is a chance.

#4430515

tsunami231

2012-10-13 18:58

Advanced Micro Devices will very likely cut 2340 jobs which is about about 20 percent of the workforce. AMD to cut thousands of jobs

Amd is on a roll, If they keep this up there might not be any workforce that actual makes there cpu,gpu that makes there money or lack there of it as of late. If they go belly up it would be very bad for everyone

#4430517

sykozis

2012-10-13 19:00

They need nothing more guy's, they need our support. I don't wanna see again intel-nvidia monopoly like the old times, even if amd products are (and gettind) worse

AMD products aren't getting worse.... AMD has shifted focus from "high-end" processors to budget/mainstream processors. Of course they're of little interest to enthusiasts....but they provide value to those just looking for a cheap, capable computer for web browsing, e-mail, word processing and multimedia.

#4430518

tsunami231

2012-10-13 19:06

Except for the fact there is no money in enthusiast GPU's for the most part. The real money comes from the Tesla/Firepro and integrated GPU's/CPU's (Trinity, Tegra, etc.). Enthusiast GPU's aren't that hard to make so they are an easy high-margin money source, limited as they may be. Not to mention that the desktop PC is a dead end at this point going forward, no need to be in denial about that. Your smartphone nearly has the power of a high end desktop PC from 5-6 years ago, the new Windows 8 tablets/ultrabooks will have 99% of the power of a PC (the power that actually counts to 99% of users) and be able to do 99% of the tasks any desktop can do while remaining ultra portable. This desktop PC to my left is probably the last one I'll ever end up building for myself. Intel has seen the writing on the wall for a long time already, hence Haswell. Nvidia are no different, hence their focus on Tegra (which is a real money maker for them, especially with CUDA). AMD are also starting to get onboard finally, they just need an architecture that can keep up. As one person succinctly put it, "The took a Server focused architecture and put it in a Laptop... brilliant!".

I dont buy that argument one bit, And I never will Yes phone have grown in power, and cause of that there battery life is pure trash, I dont buy them for anything other then to be cell phone, In terms of raw power they are not they same and will never be unless they come up with some huge break threw on batteries. Desktops are going no where

#4430561

DSparil

2012-10-13 20:06

Wow, this is really bad news. I hope this doesn't ultimately become an Intel monopoly where they can rape us even more for their products than they already do.

#4430575

Ryu5uzaku

2012-10-13 20:22

using laptop is pain over desktop tbh. i'd hate to work with a damn laptop -.- meh.... desktop for work and gaming, laptop to take with me, tablet for smaller crap like reading manga at bed and stuff but really hmm O.o sad to see amd doing so bad. hopefully they can recover >_>

#4430592

PCElite

2012-10-13 20:46

Shame. But Chines are on shopping spree;)

#4430657

sykozis

2012-10-13 23:06

HTPC builders (i.e.- those using desktop components) are the niche of the niche market. And with the likes of Google TV, Apple TV, set top boxes and cheap Android units like the Mk808, this market has shrunk even further. Offices are all buying laptops these days, everyone I know that works at any major company told me that when their company are buying new equipment, they all get laptops, and sometimes in addition tablets. It's just that more efficient.

Not sure exactly what type of businesses you're dealing with, but most of those that I deal with regularly won't touch laptops.

Whenever they are unable to compete, they just say that they shifted their focus away from high-end. This is far from true. Their mid-range/low-end processors are large, expensive to build CPUs that should normally be the high-end models; they are labeled mainstream because they perform no better than that and they sell with little to no profit, or even at a loss. This is not an AMD strategy shift. It is just that they can't do better than that.

So, we should all expect an APU to compete against a Core i7?

#4430672

DSparil

2012-10-13 23:27

Whenever they are unable to compete, they just say that they shifted their focus away from high-end. This is far from true. Their mid-range/low-end processors are large, expensive to build CPUs that should normally be the high-end models; they are labeled mainstream because they perform no better than that and they sell with little to no profit, or even at a loss. This is not an AMD strategy shift. It is just that they can't do better than that.

This entire statement is just plain ignorant. So you know whats going on behind closed doors at AMD? Clearly you have the "inside scoop" on AMD's big cover up marketing scheme and have read their books and seen the profit margins in black and white! 🙄

#4430746

BLEH!

2012-10-14 01:50

For the average user, AMD have it spot on. An APU with a decent GPU in it and 4 (or 2 + HTT) cores (whichever way you look at it), is more than enough for most people. If the price is right, which it usually is with AMD, there's nothing wrong with it. If these layoffs are due to trimming the unnecessary flab off the business, so be it, if they're cutting important people, then we have an issue, but this remains to be seen...

#4430763

Noisiv

2012-10-14 02:32

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#4430764

sykozis

2012-10-14 02:35

When did this thread become about religious ****?

#4430780

sykozis

2012-10-14 03:07

For the average consumer, the performance difference between AMD and Intel is negligible as they both offer more performance than necessary for web browsing, word processing and multimedia. The only ones obsessed with the performance difference, are enthusiasts.

#4430795

sykozis

2012-10-14 03:25

Exactly. But the issue gets more complicated when we look at power usage. A while back we did a comparison between the average household cost for a Bulldozer CPU and a Sandy Bridge CPU operating normally over a year. The difference was staggering at between $50-$150 depending on where you live. Now take any business that is buying hundreds to thousands of such CPU's in their products and it adds up quickly to be a substantial amount. Again, it just shows that AMD misread the market.

$50-$150 per year....wouldn't make a bit of difference to me when choosing a processor...or to the average consumer either... You should have seen what it cost to have my GTX560Ti folding for 30 days.... That actually made a noticeable impact on my power bill....much more than Bulldozer would compared to my 2600K...

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I find that to be a very fitting response to his/her post....and I'll second it..

#4430848

ViperXtreme

2012-10-14 05:28

in before thread lock? i thought i was reading about amd cutting off jobs '__'