I see the 5800x3d has dropped price to €309 over here.

WhiteLightning:

I see the 5800x3d has dropped price to €309 over here.

Same here, dropped down some 7 or 8% recently. 317€ here.

I either cannot find the 5800X3D or it is near 500 USD here...

Cheapest I've seen it at was €340 around these parts, but we do have 23% VAT, so it's circa about... €276 ex VAT?

US Amazon has 5800xed for$299.

Micro Center now sells the 5800x3d for $299 in the US. And the 5700x is down to $180. Tempted to pick one of these up to replace a 3800x.

GarrettL:

Micro Center now sells the 5800x3d for $299 in the US. And the 5700x is down to $180. Tempted to pick one of these up to replace a 3800x.

I wish MC can ship outside of the US! 😀

Valken:

I wish MC can ship outside of the US! 😀

Micro Center is a good guage at where prices are headed. I never thought AMD would sell the 5800x3d under $300 before the 7800x3d is released.

GarrettL:

Micro Center now sells the 5800x3d for $299 in the US. And the 5700x is down to $180. Tempted to pick one of these up to replace a 3800x.

That is a great price - very enticing to me. But, while I am looking for a bargain, I'm committed to upgrading my GPU before I go through a 3rd CPU upgrade. I also care a lot more about performance-per-watt, and the 7700 is noticeably better than the 5700X in that regard. You could argue I could downvolt, but the same applies to the 7700. If I were to go with a 5700X, it's hard to say whether I should upgrade my X370 board. I don't like the extra power draw of the 500 series chipset and since I'm not getting a flagship GPU, I should be fine with PCIe 3.0. I'd be missing out on SAM though.

schmidtbag:

That is a great price - very enticing to me. But, while I am looking for a bargain, I'm committed to upgrading my GPU before I go through a 3rd CPU upgrade. I also care a lot more about performance-per-watt, and the 7700 is noticeably better than the 5700X in that regard. You could argue I could downvolt, but the same applies to the 7700. If I were to go with a 5700X, it's hard to say whether I should upgrade my X370 board. I don't like the extra power draw of the 500 series chipset and since I'm not getting a flagship GPU, I should be fine with PCIe 3.0. I'd be missing out on SAM though.

Definitely upgrade to 500 series board if you think going 5700x or 5800x3d. You dont want to miss out the sam, pcie4 storage and gpu support.

schmidtbag:

That is a great price - very enticing to me. But, while I am looking for a bargain, I'm committed to upgrading my GPU before I go through a 3rd CPU upgrade. I also care a lot more about performance-per-watt, and the 7700 is noticeably better than the 5700X in that regard. You could argue I could downvolt, but the same applies to the 7700. If I were to go with a 5700X, it's hard to say whether I should upgrade my X370 board. I don't like the extra power draw of the 500 series chipset and since I'm not getting a flagship GPU, I should be fine with PCIe 3.0. I'd be missing out on SAM though.

You definitely got some mileage out of that x370. Did you originally build it in 2017? It is frustrating that a good gpu will cost nearly as much as the rest of the pc components. The good news is all the recent price drops from cpu's to NVME storage and everything inbetween. Poor quarterly results tend to have an effect.

Undying:

Definitely upgrade to 500 series board if you think going 5700x or 5800x3d. You dont want to miss out the sam, pcie4 storage and gpu support.

SAM is really the only thing I'd concern over. I have no interest at all in spending extra on PCIe 4.0 storage and worst-case scenario, I'd lose 5FPS with running a modern GPU [with x16 lanes] on PCIe 3.0. Like I said, I don't bother with flagships so I'm not expecting to get bottlenecked by PCIe bandwidth.

GarrettL:

You definitely got some mileage out of that x370. Did you originally build it in 2017? It is frustrating that a good gpu will cost nearly as much as the rest of the pc components. The good news is all the recent price drops from cpu's to NVME storage and everything inbetween. Poor quarterly results tend to have an effect.

Yep, I got the first ITX AM4 mobo available. It's not particularly good but it gets the job done; it's terrible for any kind of overclocking and the fan profiles are awful, but since I intend to undervolt, I don't think either will be an issue should I swap. And yeah, I'm not willing to spend more than $300 on a GPU; it's annoying how nothing within the past 9 years has been worth upgrading to. If my ancient R9 290 had 8GB of VRAM, I know it would hold up fine with most modern games at near-max detail. It's a good thing I have a lot of other hobbies because I probably would've bit the bullet and spent $450 on an underwhelming GPU by now. Unfortunately the poor quarterly results just causes lowered production numbers to keep supply lower than demand. Back in 2020, chip designers were basically paying extra to get a bigger slice of TSMC's pie. Today, I wouldn't be surprised if TSMC's production line is still 100% maxed out but chip designers aren't incentivized to pay a higher premium to keep producing consumer-grade products. So, until server demand lowers, we may be stuck with expensive chips involving large dies. Consumer-grade CPUs and flash chips don't use particularly large dies, so they remain somewhat affordable.

Ya I just picked up a 5800x for $180 new off E-bay dropped in my Asus CHVII 470X as an upgrade from 2700x and just put ram @ 3200 and tightened as far as i could and just let the rest be. But If I had a 5 series board I would have gotten the 3DV absolutely .. but I'm good with the 5800x its nice chip really and I notice it over the 2700 so I'm happy.

I did the 5800X to 5800X3D a few days ago. Works great with a RTX4080

This anounce is about the new 7950x3D and the peeps end up talking about buying AM4 lol AMD must be pissed for making a really good long and cheap platform. I think we would not going to see that in the near future.

Pryme:

This anounce is about the new 7950x3D and the peeps end up talking about buying AM4 lol AMD must bee pissed for making a really good long and cheap platform. I think we would not going to see that in the near future.

Ya your right but even if I had the money I wouldn't replace my whole system right now I'm cool where I'm at right now with the upgrade from 2700 to 5800 @ 180 bucks was a no brainer.

SplashDown:

Ya your right but even if I had the money I wouldn't replace my system right now I'm cool where I'm at right now.

I have the money and I'm not going to change for many years. AM4 is really good, cheap, easy to upgrade.

Pryme:

This anounce is about the new 7950x3D and the peeps end up talking about buying AM4 lol AMD must be pissed for making a really good long and cheap platform. I think we would not going to see that in the near future.

I'm sure the board of directors did not like the longevity of the AM4 platform but AMD knows there consumer base greatly appreciates what they did with AM4. They kept their promise with AM4. I think the "mistake" they made from a sales point of view was releasing any x3d cpu for the AM4 platform. Imagine being in that conference room during the conversation AMD made the about the 5800x3d. Thankfully someone in that room said, "we're going to release the 5800x3d for AM4". From a PR and marketing viewpoint it was brilliant to raise brand awareness. We'll see how this all shkes out over time but give them credit when it's due. For all the price scalping that went on over the last couple of years it's pretty refreshing when a large company does something in thier customer's interest.

schmidtbag:

SAM is really the only thing I'd concern over. I have no interest at all in spending extra on PCIe 4.0 storage and worst-case scenario, I'd lose 5FPS with running a modern GPU [with x16 lanes] on PCIe 3.0. Like I said, I don't bother with flagships so I'm not expecting to get bottlenecked by PCIe bandwidth. Yep, I got the first ITX AM4 mobo available. It's not particularly good but it gets the job done; it's terrible for any kind of overclocking and the fan profiles are awful, but since I intend to undervolt, I don't think either will be an issue should I swap. And yeah, I'm not willing to spend more than $300 on a GPU; it's annoying how nothing within the past 9 years has been worth upgrading to. If my ancient R9 290 had 8GB of VRAM, I know it would hold up fine with most modern games at near-max detail. It's a good thing I have a lot of other hobbies because I probably would've bit the bullet and spent $450 on an underwhelming GPU by now. Unfortunately the poor quarterly results just causes lowered production numbers to keep supply lower than demand. Back in 2020, chip designers were basically paying extra to get a bigger slice of TSMC's pie. Today, I wouldn't be surprised if TSMC's production line is still 100% maxed out but chip designers aren't incentivized to pay a higher premium to keep producing consumer-grade products. So, until server demand lowers, we may be stuck with expensive chips involving large dies. Consumer-grade CPUs and flash chips don't use particularly large dies, so they remain somewhat affordable.

Depending on the game sam can yield quite a bump in performance on amd cards, up to 15% in some games + 5% going down to pcie3 thats 20%. I would say thats worth investing into 500 series board if going with 5000 series cpu. Storage isnt necessary but it could be with direct storage so why not going pcie4 nvme when you are at it?

me setting on my chair waiting the 5800x3d prices falling down :v