AMD Ryzen 7 AGESA 1006 performance and DDR4 memory check - review

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Thats weird. Aside from memory swap testing on the ASUS hero board all these tests have been performed on an ASRock board. I have not seen any behavior like you mentioned and am using the Ryzen optimized setting. For an SSD to reach 100% usage massive amounts MB/s need to be written, you probably are better off looking for the cause of what software in fact is writing that much data every 45 seconds. The application causing it should see increased CPU activity which you can track with the task manager.
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Awesome stuff HH, thank you! 🙂
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So G-Skill is not doing to good still. That is odd as they are one of the largest memory suppliers.
hmmm, I need to comment on that. I have a large number of GSKILL DIMMs, less from the others. So for each 5 GSKILL kits tested I have say 1 from Corsair. Ergo that is why you see less GSKILL kits pass. Secondly the majority of G.Skill kits are beyond 3200 MHz (which is not supported by XMP in AGESA 1006) and then some of them are 2015 DIMMs. It's clear that AMD has been focusing on the newer memory types for support. As far as the FlareX Ryzen memory goes, I need to further check as the memory might be broken, on the Asrock setup it even reported back as single channel somehow.
#5447621
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Nice Hilbert. I'm still seeing some issues with Ryzen balanced power settings compared to high power setting in my Win 10 setup. R5 1600X, AsRock X370 Taichi 2x8gb Corsair LPX 3200mhz ram, 1Tb Mushkin Reactor SSD, Creative ZX soundcard and RX 580. When set at Ryzen balanced power, I have hitches and pauses every 15-45secs associated with the SSD approaching 100% disc usage, these disappear when I have power settings set to high. Have you experienced this or have any idea why this is occurs???
I would look into what is writing that much into your SSD before it fails. Be sure to optimize your system for an SSD: disable indexing, disable defrag, etc. Thanks for this update review Hilbert.
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My experience is weird, with Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 with kind of old BIOS it works with XMP 3200 profile but I can't get any overclock in BIOS, with Ryzen Master however the overclock is stable with 4Ghz at 1.4V. With new BIOS version with 1.0.0.6 AGESA XMP Profile doesn't work... Hopefully it will get sorted out in future.
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I've got to change my RAM, the GSkill TridentZ 2800 stuff isn't playing nicely :bang:
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hmmm, I need to comment on that. I have a large number of GSKILL DIMMs, less from the others. So for each 5 GSKILL kits tested I have say 1 from Corsair. Ergo that is why you see less GSKILL kits pass. Secondly the majority of G.Skill kits are beyond 3200 MHz (which is not supported by XMP in AGESA 1006) and then some of them are 2015 DIMMs. It's clear that AMD has been focusing on the newer memory types for support. As far as the FlareX Ryzen memory goes, I need to further check as the memory might be broken, on the Asrock setup it even reported back as single channel somehow.
Wasn't GSKILL one of the main partners for AMD and Ryzen support as well? Or am I making that up?
#5447651
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Great review as always When you have the time, could you test the 1%, 0.1% lows in some game(Rise of the tomb raider seems to be the most affected by the M speeds) with the different memory speeds to see if it has any effect?
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Well got xpower motherboard and flare still not working.. ;/
MSI hasn't updated firmwares to AGESA 1006 yet.
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Could confirm this one Hilbert
Corsair vengeance LPX 3000 MHz / CL15 - PASS: 2933 MHz / CL16 (memory did not configure at CL15 but Cl16 instead)
My Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 4x8GB memory rated at 15-17-17-35 doesn't want to boot at CL15, always goes to 16. CL14 Results in 2133 safeboot.
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Hilbert, you dont happen to have any Kingston HyperX Predator ram kits to test do you? 🙂 Also still holding out for an MSI bios update on AGESA 1006. MSI seems to be slow with these updates on the AM4 platform. ASRock seems to be leading the charge with the best overall experience with their board features and bios updates- from what I have seen.
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Hi, although i followed Guru3d for years, this is my first post. Hilbert there must be something wrong with your FlareX sticks. I have them on a Asus ch6 and worked fine (3200/ CL14) even with older bioses. I still have 1201 on my system since asus hasnt provided an official bios on her site with the new microcode.
Yeah as I stated, I think one of the sticks might be broken. Good to hear they do work on your end. Oh and welcome ! 🙂
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There is an improvement overall. Everything is still board dependent form the appearances of this article. Both the ASUS Prime X370-PRO and the C6H have been able to run the GSkill F4-3200C14D-16GTZ kits at their rated speed and timings for a long while. The issue are speeds above 3200 for using DOCP. There is one big hiccup still and that is DOCP does not set timings past Tras. One should not have to use programs like Thaiphoon Burner to find out what the extended timings are and setting them manually afterwards. Currently running F4-3600C16D-16GTZ @ 3466 15-15-15-15-35 along with dealing with a cold boot issue. The only issue with 2T running as set is that the Geardown setting needs to be disabled or it is overridden to 1T for any speeds above 2666. GSkill kits are rated for 2T. The bios should have addressed this DOCP event by now. AMD is all over the map with launch after launch. They need to focus on getting the bios basics covered.
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Ironic, how the G.Skill Flare X (marketed as being AMD compatible) was on the "failed" list. I'm using G.Skill myself and my motherboard still has yet to get this update, but I'm feeling pretty good I'll reach the full speed of it whenever I do get the update. The problem is I don't have access to the T2 command rate, which my RAM is set to use. If I can bump it to 3200MHz, I'm happy.
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Ironic, how the G.Skill Flare X (marketed as being AMD compatible) was on the "failed" list. I'm using G.Skill myself and my motherboard still has yet to get this update, but I'm feeling pretty good I'll reach the full speed of it whenever I do get the update. The problem is I don't have access to the T2 command rate, which my RAM is set to use. If I can bump it to 3200MHz, I'm happy.
The new AGESA update will give access to that setting and to a setting that will be labeled exactly like or close to Geardown. That needs to be disabled or CR will run at 1T. https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/05/25/community-update-4-lets-talk-dram
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Nice review, well for my like i will like to see how is the petformance of the Ryzen 1800x with the new agesa.
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Great guide! Thanks Hilbert, now the only diference At 1080p is just clock relates lol in most of cases Intel processors are up when clocks is 4.10GHz or least
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Nice update/review on Ryzen performance and memory post release. --- I was under the impression that on most motherboards G Skill was one of the "safest" RAM brands for higher speed DIMMs with Ryzen? Is this just a case of the ASUS Crosshair being more finicky then some of the other high end X370 motherboards?
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Nice update/review on Ryzen performance and memory post release. --- I was under the impression that on most motherboards G Skill was one of the "safest" RAM brands for higher speed DIMMs with Ryzen? Is this just a case of the ASUS Crosshair being more finicky then some of the other high end X370 motherboards?
Can only speak about my experiences. The Crosshair has been a great board so far but would answer that question as yes. There are a fair amount of complaints on the ROG forum about it. Bios 1401 was a watershed event. It was the first bios able boot into windows @ 3600. Needed to exit without trying to run anything. If tried to run a program the system would immediately lockup. When attempted this on the Prime X370-Pro it corrupted the bios so badly, think the nvram was affected. The Prime board is currently on RMA. Should be noted that I also refuse to use DOCP. It does not set any timings past Tras correctly. Having to manually enter the others, why bother with it. Think the board is just finicky about what is connected to it. The psu was just released this year and have both cpu board power connectors hooked to the psu (the 8 & extra 4 pin). Almost thought I had bricked this board too. Turned out the bios flash back button option did not like any of the USB 3.0 sticks had lying around. It only liked the USB 2.0 sticks am still holding onto.
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I honestly am not too much into overclocking. I just wanted a Ryzen system that would work out of the box. So I got an ASUS Prime B350 Plus and some Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C14. Now, even with the AGESA 1.0.0.6 update, I can't get my PC to even post at 3200 MHz. I just checked Amazon and it now says my memory is "for Intel series" (didn't say that when I purchased it). Am I really an idiot who somehow bought memory that won't do 3200 on Ryzen? Thanks for any help.

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