AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Takes The Lead in Passmark Single Thread Scores

SamuelL421

2020-10-23 21:28

This is awesome, I hope we start getting more options for AMD laptops soon. Sadly there's no workstation or high-end gaming laptops available with 4800h/4900h, maybe we'll finally get those with 5xxx / Zen 3 mobile chips.

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Webhiker

2020-10-23 23:40

tty8k:

Well thats great for 1 core (a bit suspicious that most leaks show single thread performance no?)

Not really since we all know AMD is superior in multi-threading and the 5000 series will only widen that gap to Intel. The reason single thread performance is being shown is due to the performance increase AMD have made in that area. With a 40 fps increase in Shadow of the Tomb Raider in 1080p compared to previous gen Ryzen is just mind boggling. When have Intel ever given you a performance uplift like that ?

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chainy

2020-10-24 00:41

All nice and dandy but let's wait and see real life gaming benchmarks and if they can beat 5.3 oc'd intels there on 1080p..

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fry178

2020-10-24 03:05

@tty8k and? the benchmark for hw sales are the +60-80% (depending on country/game etc) that are on 1080p (720p). outside the fact that virtually every bench/games shows almost no difference for 2k, and definitely almost nil at 4K, and completely ignoring that almost all (that dont have a 2080-ti/3090) are bottlenecking on the gpu, not the cpu, so upgrading the gpu would give far more gains than cpu.

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Reddoguk

2020-10-24 03:24

AMD hasn't really overtaken Intel in CPU performance it's more like Intel has stagnated with their 14nm ++++++++++++++++ and left the door wide open.. ^^

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theoneofgod

2020-10-24 03:29

Reddoguk:

AMD hasn't really overtaken Intel in CPU performance it's more like Intel has stagnated with their 14nm ++++++++++++++++ and left the door wide open.. ^^

It's the same thing.

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Aura89

2020-10-24 06:12

Kool64:

you'd have to be crazy to buy a 5600X though. With the 10400F being the new "budget" king. I guess you'd get one to have the fastest of the slowest???

By this same logic, the 10600k would be in the same boat. And everything inbetween. Just because they have the same amount of cores doesn't mean they'll have the same performance....

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Webhiker

2020-10-24 11:36

tty8k:

Well that's easy since Intel didn't have such crap gaming processors to improve in the first place. The difference it's bigger when you come from a hole. Lets see what difference is in 2k and even 4k gaming so that they charge premium. Any chance of a 5% difference would be wonderful for the 50% more money. 1080p is a lost memory, at least 5 years old to me.

It doesn't really matter where they came from. Since Zen 1 was released they have done nothing but improve generation by generation. As a matter of fact it's a lot more impressive coming from nothing than releasing another 14+++++++++++++++++++ node with 2% performance increase. When Intel was ahead 1080p and even 720p was VERY important to show CPU performance, now it's not important at all. Suddenly 4k is all Intel cares about for the simple fact that the GPU matters more not the CPU. How pathetic is that.

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kapu

2020-10-24 12:05

Webhiker:

It doesn't really matter where they came from. Since Zen 1 was released they have done nothing but improve generation by generation. As a matter of fact it's a lot more impressive coming from nothing than releasing another 14+++++++++++++++++++ node with 2% performance increase. When Intel was ahead 1080p and even 720p was VERY important to show CPU performance, now it's not important at all. Suddenly 4k is all Intel cares about for the simple fact that the GPU matters more not the CPU. How pathetic is that.

That's intel marketing in the nut shell 😀 I'm waiting for cheap 5600 to appear , i hope AMD can put 200 euro price tag on it ....

#5846154

Rx4speed

2020-10-24 14:19

Kool64:

perhaps I would just feel weird paying $300 for six cores.

Well that arguement falls short when AMD releases the 5600 non-X for a rumored $220!?.

kapu:

That's intel marketing in the nut shell 😀 I'm waiting for cheap 5600 to appear , i hope AMD can put 200 euro price tag on it ....

Rumor has it around $220 USD. Not sure in Euros. With the 5600x at $300 and the 5800x @ $450, given the IPC gains alone, the $220 5600 looks like a stellar buy. I'd love a 5800x but I think the price point is too high.

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H83

2020-10-24 14:52

Richard Nutman:

The chip speeds really bother me. If the dual chiplet 16 core 5950X can hit 4.9Ghz turbo, why on earth can the single chiplet 8 core 5800X not reach 4.9Ghz also? Why is the 6 core 5600X limited to 4.5Ghz turbo? Makes no sense. Surely less cores is less heat?

AMD uses the best chips for the most expensive parts. If they have an 8 core chip that hits max speed they will use it on their higher models and leave the worst chips for the cheapest parts. Makes some sense although i agree that an X part should have the fastest chip available. Anyway, Zen 3 seems to be an hit and the 5800x is looking so good! Good thing it´s too expensive for me otherwise...

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Witcher29

2020-10-24 15:23

JamesSneed:

Whoa. AMD is killing it.

But not in gaming.

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kapu

2020-10-24 15:42

Witcher29:

But not in gaming.

This round appears to be quite different 😀

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fry178

2020-10-24 17:16

@Witcher29 lol. unless you have a 2080ti or equivalent, your gpu bound, and even the ppl i know that have tis, they rather have a more up to date platform, than 2fps more on intel

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Aura89

2020-10-24 19:50

Witcher29:

But not in gaming.

Do you work for intel?

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JamesSneed

2020-10-24 20:33

Witcher29:

But not in gaming.

We shall see once third party reviews are out. If AMD is to be believed they are killing Intel in gaming and every other metric.

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Steppzor

2020-10-24 21:16

My 8700K i still good, but craving a upgrade. Might go AMD this time for sure. This looks very promising.

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mackintosh

2020-10-24 21:18

I'd be happy if they at least match Intel this time around. If they do, I'll happily change to AMD, as I'm due for an upgrade. In fact, I'm kind of counting on it. Haven't owned an AMD system since I got a Core 2 Duo.

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Steppzor

2020-10-24 21:27

mackintosh:

I'd be happy if they at least match Intel this time around. If they do, I'll happily change to AMD, as I'm due for an upgrade. In fact, I'm kind of counting on it. Haven't owned an AMD system since I got a Core 2 Duo.

I haven't owned a AMD CPU since FX8350. I was not pleased and ordered a 4770K right after and moved the FX one to my media center computer at that time, but this gen looks very promising. Will wait for a review from the boss.

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blkspade

2020-10-24 23:05

tty8k:

Well thats great for 1 core (a bit suspicious that most leaks show single thread performance no?) Lets see how it goes when it drops to 4.2-4.3 on all cores vs an Intel that clocks higher like 5GHz (OC). Will see how they convince me to pay 350e for this vs a 10700k (or whatever the 11700k will be).

If they are telling the truth about the 19% IPC improvement over Zen 2, then Zen 3 @ 4.3 would be equivalent to Zen 2 @ 5.1Ghz. If Zen 2 has 7% higher IPC than 10th Gen Intel, then 4.3 = 4.6. Zen 3 would push that up to 12%, so equivalent to 4.8Ghz. Now with the max boost being higher, the all-core most likely is as well. So if Zen 3 can get all core boost of 4.5Ghz, it would be equal to 5.0Ghz of Intel. Better still with less power and heat.