AMD Radeon RX 7000 RDNA3 Arrives Early December

#6066790

Maddness

2022-10-31 08:40

Can't wait for your review. Hopefully it's good and I can at least afford this one.

#6066814

DarkQuark

2022-10-31 09:51

AMD has an opportunity here. It can join the free for all money grab and go with sky high prices OR it can endear itself to customers and come in at a much lower price point than NVIDIA. I hope we see the AMD of old where their performance is near the top but their prices are not.

#6066820

Kaarme

2022-10-31 10:17

DarkQuark:

AMD has an opportunity here. It can join the free for all money grab and go with sky high prices OR it can endear itself to customers and come in at a much lower price point than NVIDIA. I hope we see the AMD of old where their performance is near the top but their prices are not.

It would be a good opportunity. AMD still suffers from the "AMD drivers will give you grief" reputation problem, which actually prevents people from even trying AMD cards. The only way to combat that would be to get new, satisfied customers. Alas, I don't expect that to happen. AMD will also increase prices, no doubt. For whatever reason, AMD is satisfied with the 20% market share in graphics cards.

#6066832

pegasus1

2022-10-31 11:21

DarkQuark:

AMD has an opportunity here. It can join the free for all money grab and go with sky high prices OR it can endear itself to customers and come in at a much lower price point than NVIDIA. I hope we see the AMD of old where their performance is near the top but their prices are not.

AMD are a publically traded company, not a charity. They dont care about who buys their cards, nor should they, sales are key not who pays. They need to maximise profits or they wither and die.

#6066839

Embra

2022-10-31 11:51

I was sort of hoping they would be out mid-Nov. Looking forward to HH and crew's review.

#6066855

Silva

2022-10-31 13:01

I'm not in the market for high-end overpriced cards, but sure am exited to see what kind of price performance proposition AMD is going to make with these cards. Sadly, if series RX6000 serve as any indication, I'll have to wait 1 year for "affordable" RX7600.

#6066862

Valken

2022-10-31 13:15

I see USED 6900XTs around 500 USD mark... So tempted but waiting for the 3x RTRT performance Lisahhhhhhhhhhhh uh uh uhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

#6066894

H83

2022-10-31 14:43

Let`s hope the prices are somehow sane...

#6066897

MonstroMart

2022-10-31 14:47

Kaarme:

It would be a good opportunity. AMD still suffers from the "AMD drivers will give you grief" reputation problem, which actually prevents people from even trying AMD cards. The only way to combat that would be to get new, satisfied customers. Alas, I don't expect that to happen. AMD will also increase prices, no doubt. For whatever reason, AMD is satisfied with the 20% market share in graphics cards.

AMD did the price thing with the 5700 XT and it did not work. Not sure why it would work this time. I think the price difference between the 4080 and 7800 could be 200$ USD and people would still buy the 4080. It would need to be half the price and that would not make sense for AMD.

#6066906

pegasus1

2022-10-31 15:23

Valken:

I see USED 6900XTs around 500 USD mark... So tempted but waiting for the 3x RTRT performance Lisahhhhhhhhhhhh uh uh uhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

Well lets hope it doesnt go down like the 7 series CPUs or you'll be grabbing that 6900XT like i grabbed a 5800X3D

#6066907

pegasus1

2022-10-31 15:26

MonstroMart:

I think the price difference between the 4080 and 7800 could be 200$ USD and people would still buy the 4080. It would need to be half the price and that would not make sense for AMD.

100%, same with many products in life, people often go with what they know, or what they think they know.

#6066915

Kaarme

2022-10-31 16:00

MonstroMart:

AMD did the price thing with the 5700 XT and it did not work. Not sure why it would work this time. I think the price difference between the 4080 and 7800 could be 200$ USD and people would still buy the 4080. It would need to be half the price and that would not make sense for AMD.

It might have actually worked. Just from my limited RL group of gaming friends three people bought 5700 XTs, two of whom belonged to the "AMD drivers are suspicious" folks previously. So, it's entirely possible that without aggressive pricing AMD would have lost market share further. After all, AMD was fighting against the competitor's raytracing and DLSS "revolution" with nothing but raster performance. AMD was also burdened by the earlier failure of the Vega cards to impress anyone in the enthusiast segment. The truth is that 80% of gamers (with a discrete GPU) are sporting an Nvidia card, and they have no reason to switch to the other camp, unless AMD offers clearly superior performance for the same price or equal for much cheaper. Will they change even under those condition? Who knows, but they certainly won't without those boons.

#6066922

Undying

2022-10-31 16:18

They will introduce 7900xt and 7900xtx so just like with nvidia we'll have to wait next year for midrange cards. I just hope the'll mention 7700/7800.

#6066923

pegasus1

2022-10-31 16:20

I hope they went balls out with non RT performance rather than mediocrity for both RT and non-RT. Imagine a card thats just a little bit faster in non-RT, a little bit slower in RT, a little bit cheaper and a little bit more power friendly.

#6066926

pegasus1

2022-10-31 16:26

Undying:

They will introduce 7900xt and 7900xtx so just like with nvidia we'll have to wait next year for midrange cards. I just hope the'll mention 7700/7800.

Any idea what differentiates the XT and XTX? Faster RAM and a clock bump maybe?

#6066949

mikeysg

2022-10-31 17:57

pegasus1:

Any idea what differentiates the XT and XTX? Faster RAM and a clock bump maybe?

Saw the differences listed online: RX 7900 XTX - Stream Procs - 12288 VRAM - 24GB GDDR6 Memory Bus - 384bit Memory speed - 20 GBPS Infinity Cache - 96 MB Bandwidth - 960 GB/s RX 7900 XT - Stream Procs - 10752 VRAM - 20GB GDDR6 Memory Bus - 320bit Memory speed - 20 GBPS Infinity Cache - 80 MB Bandwidth - 800 GB/s

#6066966

Undying

2022-10-31 18:36

pegasus1:

Any idea what differentiates the XT and XTX? Faster RAM and a clock bump maybe?

mikeysg:

Saw the differences listed online: RX 7900 XTX - Stream Procs - 12288 VRAM - 24GB GDDR6 Memory Bus - 384bit Memory speed - 20 GBPS Infinity Cache - 96 MB Bandwidth - 960 GB/s RX 7900 XT - Stream Procs - 10752 VRAM - 20GB GDDR6 Memory Bus - 320bit Memory speed - 20 GBPS Infinity Cache - 80 MB Bandwidth - 800 GB/s

So 7800xt 16gb and 7700xt 12gb can happen too if nothing maybe announcement at ces.

#6066973

pegasus1

2022-10-31 19:08

mikeysg:

Saw the differences listed online:

Blimey those are some serious differences, i honestly expected like the 6950xt is to the 6900xt, or even a GTX to Ti but these specs suggest a serious bump in performance if true. Im all in for an XTX.

#6067002

schmidtbag

2022-10-31 20:03

Give me something ready for 4K@60FPS for $300 and I'll buy it, maybe $350 if they manage to pull it off with a single 8-pin power connector. I don't care about raytracing performance for now; it's going to be another several years when even Nvidia will offer something good enough without the assistance of DLSS.

#6067045

Undying

2022-10-31 21:32

schmidtbag:

Give me something ready for 4K@60FPS for $300 and I'll buy it, maybe $350 if they manage to pull it off with a single 8-pin power connector. I don't care about raytracing performance for now; it's going to be another several years when even Nvidia will offer something good enough without the assistance of DLSS.

You cant really expect 300$ gpu that runs 4k60, not with games being so demanding and unoptimized. Simply not gonna happen. We should be lucky if a 500$ gpu runs 1440p/60 with raytracing enabled.