Specs?Pls share with us the specs of the the card,the 390X.The official specs not what ppl like to speculate on forums.

i dont know of its real ore fake. https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10557126_1503835436558355_2952002444678298490_o.jpg http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/43305893#43305893

With a New windows 6.1 :roll:

Uh oh... here we go again. The AMD hype train has left the station and if history is any indicator, it will be traveling non-stop to it's destination.... the land of disappointment. I'd like to see AMD release a killer card as much as any of you, but after reading this thread, i've decided to just sit back and watch the rumors and fabrications spiral out of control. Example:

Being an engineering sample the final product could be much faster. It also isn't clear whether it is an early sample or late sample, or whether it's clocked at the full speed or a lower speed that engineering samples often are (I believe).

And when has this happened in the past? When has the retail card been "much faster" than an engineering sample leak? Early engineering samples with lower clock speeds are almost always kept in-house or shown running at an event and I can't think of an incident where one got into the hands of some website who would risk violating NDA. If this is indeed a real benchmark, I guarantee it's borderline final-silicone and very close to release. My personal opinion on the benchmarks is they're probably fake. Those of you who say ChipHell has a good track record on leaks are blinded by your desire for this to be real. ChipHell had fake benchmarks for Bulldozer, HD7990, HD4870, 9600GT, as well as many other cards. Just run a google search. As for these graphs, rofl, Captain Jack, I remember the hype before mantle was introduced, *annihilate all of Nvidia* then when it hit the streets - "Oh it only works in cpu bound situations"... and don't get me started on Bulldozer.

uhm comparing titan 2 to this..why? i can also say that the 395x will eat titan 2 for lunch.. i guarantee it

This hype/speculative thread is already comparing thin air to actually existing market products so why not. I could also say that I predict that card will come bundled with a mini nuclear reactor to power the card. It's actually not wrong, until a 390x product comes to exist debunking that statement.

Gotta say I am in fault for falling for flamebaits but oh well 😯 gotta try to ignore em.

I think the moderators should do a better job in these forums. Every thread has become a NV vs AMD troll fest. Going back to the rumour, it would be great if this card was mid range so NV would lower some prices and more people can afford those nice cards.

If the thread involves AMD at all, it tends to become a troll fest. Unfortunately, the mods are all "volunteers" and have other responsibilities that interfere with their moderator duties. There's also not very many of them, so they've got their hands full. Hilbert gives us all a good bit of freedom to post our own views and opinions and the moderators try to keep each thread clean without resulting to censorship. Sadly, the only way to keep every thread clean is for those that actually have no interest in the topic, to stay out of the thread. Unfortunately, there's too many people that feel the need to bash products/manufacturers they don't like (even if it's illogical). At least our mods don't behave like the mods over at THG. Their mods troll more than the users do....and then threaten to ban members that call the mods out for trolling.

There is no better architectuur than Maxwell yet. First it must be proven (so far only rumors it can be real ore fake), second it must be on the market (2015 q2) This can be also a Hoax for keeping people away form Nvidia.

Thing is historically nvidia has always been the champion when I comes to technology regarding superior performance over amd.

No they haven't. Recently they have but in the past they haven't. And regardless AMD is competing on price vs performance. And while I understand that you may not care about that metric there are generally more people who do care then don't.

Its actually easy. I ignored this post as an example.

yep ^^^^ :thumbup:

Firstly I'm an NVIDIA fanboy or is it fanboi? I say this for all the geeky clowns out there. I will also put it another way for all the intelligent people out there...i prefer nvidia over amd because nvidia build a faster performaning gpu that uses less power, runs cooler and overclocks much much better than amds cards. Even though nvidia are more expensive that does not concern me as its up to me how I spend my money beings as I'm the one that goes out to work to earn it. Secondly the moderator do a good enough job, they are fair with peoples comments in general. They are also not the Gestapo so some people should stop expecting them to be. The moderators probably have life outside of the forum, maybe some members here should try and experience life outside guru3d and the internet. It will do wonders for your sex life as well as other things. Thirdly there's a good chance that gm200 will blow this 380/390 clean out of the water and I do mean CLEANLY out. Thing is historically nvidia has always been the champion when I comes to technology regarding superior performance over amd. Its been like this for years and years so why is it going to be any different know? The fact is it isn't, amd will release a fast card and then nvidia will release the ace card blowing amd away AGAIN. Then we play the waiting game once again waiting foe amd to catch up once again. Amd owners get angry because they would love to say the same as what I've just said but they cant cause there cards get blown away pretty quickly by an NVIDIA counter move. So they come up with all the other crap like flamebaiting,trolling and all the other rubbish because its the only counter that they have lol. (lets see how they like that one):)

Ummmm.... my 7950 OC'd from 840mhz to 1200mhz with no issues. My 660's, if OC'd at all, will throttle because of a ridiculous thermal restriction that should have never existed. (The GPU's are perfectly safe to run beyond 75C) In F@H, my 7950 manages 90-120K PPD whereas my 2x660's barely manage 30K combined. Even my 560Ti managed 35K on it's own. Keep in mind that NVidia forced me to buy the 7950 by gimping GPGPU performance for Kepler. My 7950 managed to run DA2 just fine. With the latest drivers, my 660's can barely run the damn game.....and now it's missing textures and NPC's show up as floating shields and swords. If you're posting Anti-AMD crap in an AMD related thread, you're either trolling or flamebaiting. If you're not interested in AMD hardware, there's really no reason to be posting in an AMD thread at all.

I hate it when people just come out with random BS and think it's gospel. People always say, If AMD wasn't around then Nvidia/Intel would put prices sky high. There is no evidence this is the case. If Nvidia had 100% of the market then i believe the prices would actually come down not up. They could charge a lot less because they have way more products to sell. It might effect the speed at which newer parts come out but that would only be better off for the consumers. Nvidia has a huge R&D budget compared to AMD so of course they are the leaders in this field. AMD plays catch up most of the time and that only hurts the consumers in the long term. Flagship cards not even lasting 6 months at the top is cool if you don't mind spunking thousands on newer tech every 12 months.

I hate it when people just come out with random BS and think it's gospel. People always say, If AMD wasn't around then Nvidia/Intel would put prices sky high. There is no evidence this is the case. If Nvidia had 100% of the market then i believe the prices would actually come down not up. They could charge a lot less because they have way more products to sell. It might effect the speed at which newer parts come out but that would only be better off for the consumers. Nvidia has a huge R&D budget compared to AMD so of course they are the leaders in this field. AMD plays catch up most of the time and that only hurts the consumers in the long term. Flagship cards not even lasting 6 months at the top is cool if you don't mind spunking thousands on newer tech every 12 months.

There is plenty of evidence to support the theory that NVidia and Intel would jack of their prices if they had no competition. Just look at history. If a company has no competition, there's nothing to regulate pricing. If you're the only company selling a product or service that's a necessity to a market, you set the price, not the market. If NVidia were the only supplier of GPU's, they could (and based on history, would) jack up prices just because their product is a necessity. If Intel were the only provider of CPU's they could (and based on history, would) jack up prices just because their product is a necessity. Competition is what regulates prices for a market, in the consumers' favor. Anti-Monopoly laws didn't come about because companies were offering products at fair prices in markets they had total control over. Quite the contrary, actually. The laws came about because companies were gouging their customers due to lack of competition. Those who refuse to learn from the past, are doomed to repeat it.....

Another thing about these performance numbers is the fact that we do not know if the gtx 980 is OCed to its maximum potential because the graphs are going by average numbers. 2nd of all there is nothing wrong with AMD and there is nothing wrong with Nvidia.

I heard AMD's next series is gonna be so much better that they decided to skip it and release the refresh chip, 490x. Only 5% faster yet they charge the same and it costs like 30% less to make. OUTRAGE

My 7950 OC'd from 840mhz stock to 1100mhz with only a 5C increase in temp using the reference cooler.. Only increased temp 10C pushing it to 1200mhz on the reference cooler.... I get BSoD's wih my 660's with reference coolers at stock clocks if I don't use a custom fan curve....

I had 7970's in Crossfire bud. I ran them at 1200mhz too, but it was only barely a 100mhz increase, and at 1.2ghz. A single GTX 980 is outperforming the 7970's I had, and OC'd 250mhz to 1.5ghz. That is a big difference. If the 390 whatever it is even comes close to 1.5ghz OC'd then it will compete with the 980. Like I said...we don't know. The HD 7000 series is irrelevant as it has nothing to do with the 390X or whatever it will be.

I had 7970's in Crossfire bud. I ran them at 1200mhz too, but it was only barely a 100mhz increase, and at 1.2ghz. A single GTX 980 is outperforming the 7970's I had, and OC'd 250mhz to 1.5ghz. That is a big difference. If the 390 whatever it is even comes close to 1.5ghz OC'd then it will compete with the 980. Like I said...we don't know. The HD 7000 series is irrelevant as it has nothing to do with the 390X or whatever it will be.

What you quoted was a direct response to the claim that NVidia cards always overclock better than AMD cards, which is a flat out lie. The rest of your post has nothing to do with what you quoted.

Oh, my 980 will be so spanked at 4k by a new card. It barely beats 290X today. 😀

Wow so 20fps is unplayable but 21 is?

Hmmh no one said unplayable so that is odd claim 😀 I think he meant to show the difference is not that huge, well in 4K gaming at least. It is bigger in lower resolutions of course in favor of 980.

OMG!!!! :stewpid: AMD founded in 1969 / Revenue $5.30 billion Microprocessors Motherboard chipsets Graphics processing units Random-access memory TV tuner cards Nvidia founded in 1993 / Revenue US$ 4.13 billion Graphics processing units Chipsets Video Game Handhelds Now lets see the guru3d last 2 benchs: Dragon age Ultra HD 3840x2160 GTX 980 20 FPS = 550 $ R9 290X 21 FPS = 349 $ Call of Duty Advanced Warfare Ultra HD 3840x2160 2xSMAA GTX 980 57 FPS = 550 $ R9 290X 55 FPS = 349 $ I rest my case..:banana:

The difference in FPS is 1-2fps which isn't that much. 2nd of all 20fps is hardly playable. 3rd of all the only difference is in price plus the 980 runs cooler and uses less wattage than the r9 290x.

I've never owned an AMD/ATI gfx card. I often wonder what would some of my favourite games look like with a Red team card. Borderlands for example. People with AMD cards miss out on so much in this game. When you freeze something and then shatter it into thousands of pieces in a low gravity environment then that's how the game is meant to look. AMD users miss out on part of the game. So Nvidia comes with slightly more options to play with, granted only a hand full of games use the tech but it still makes a difference in those games to me. It probably adds to the price as well since Nvidia forked out 150m for AGEIA Technologies. If i had an AMD card and was playing a PhysX enabled game then i'm sure i would be slightly gutted because i'd know i'm not using all of the games features. Same goes for all the different tech, like MFAA, DSR, VXGI and some DX12 features. If you don't have these new techs then np you can still play the games but always in the back of my mind i'd want all the newer stuff.