AMD Crimson Software Might Cause locked fan RPM at 20% (overheats cards)

#5198599

Clouseau

2015-11-30 04:19

They also need to alter the disclaimer that is agreed to before enabling overdrive. Currently they only mention that the cpu may be damaged when operating outside of stated specifications. Legal team feel asleep on that one.

#5198605

sykozis

2015-11-30 04:25

The "average user" isn't going to immediately relate an apparent GPU failure to a driver. It would take someone technical minded to relate the 2. The people most likely to be affected by this, are the least likely to enable OverDrive and anyone dumb enough not to monitor their GPU temp after enabling an overclocking feature deserves to have their GPU fail imho.... When I overclock, I monitor temps at every adjustment. WTF overclocks purely by adjusting clock speeds? A lot of the cards on the market will hit a thermal wall before they reach the limit of the GPU thanks to piss poor reference coolers.

#5198639

Stormyandcold

2015-11-30 06:51

The only thing with drivers that we should fear...heat-of-death. Both sides have been guilty of it now, but, it's still a major over-sight especially with all the hype. Someone didn't do the checklist it seems. This is why they need to be more open and have wider beta testing teams so as to avoid public backlash when things don't work. Potential critical failure of hardware is serious business.

#5198645

Neo Cyrus

2015-11-30 07:19

I don't understand how such a thing could get through, how could it happen... this isn't the first time either. It's happened in the past with both nVidia and AMD.

#5198654

fantaskarsef

2015-11-30 08:02

This only makes me wonder since when AMDs drivers suffered from their teams working on mantle / vulkan / dx12. Good thing there'll be a hotfix for this and it doesn't come all too late, but if I'd have an AMD card, I'd still be annoyed by this.

#5198662

fantaskarsef

2015-11-30 08:39

At least it was not WHQL, or was it? I think people who has been hit by this issue are people who may rethink their beta driver usage. And as I wrote above, your card can lockup itself due to temperature trigger 1000 times before frying. Yet people claim 1 lockup and dead? I think some people trying to surf on this issue and get replacement for their already dead cards. Others are looking for issue source where it did not came from. (Instead on checking their own handiwork.)

Yeah, sounds pretty logical. Still, stories such as this tend to make people worry even if there's not too much reason to do so (especially those not as enthusiastic about our hardware and everything that comes with it).

#5198672

Passus

2015-11-30 09:20

just noticed mine locked itself to 60% when i have max 45% on any profile it had locked itself in the global overdrive settings, this is a fresh install of the driver after windows 10 went barmy yesterday and i had to reset it also it had locked the power to +20% even though i had not touched the overdrive prior to noticing this morning

#5198673

RealNC

2015-11-30 09:23

Now I know why they named the new software "Crimson". It's the color of the glow the GPU gives off after installing the driver. :bolt:

#5198688

joe187

2015-11-30 09:53

AMD Crispy, cause some just like it HOT! :leave:

#5198694

Dazz

2015-11-30 10:11

Wonder if this affects generic cards? I have an MSI 290 and the fan works as normal. Runs about 91C @ 1100MHz fan speed goes to 100% but the GPU remains steady at 1100MHz with the slightly extra voltage and GPU power limit at 50%.

#5198696

IceVip

2015-11-30 10:21

How can the cards die if they throttle? Ive previously had a r9280x and it throttled when It reached temperatures that were up to 75c, my current 290x throttles at 95c and Even if you try to overheat it on purpose you can't... I once fd up my fan profile And it was stuck on 10%, card clocked down to 2d clocks cuz of overheat.. So how the Hell are cards dying from this?

#5198698

sajibjoarder

2015-11-30 10:23

what about the eyefinity problem ??

#5198712

cowie

2015-11-30 10:52

we are not at amd's Funeral we our just visiting them at the hospital again. before anyone says it yes I am on my 3.5g card atm. maybe a card could die MAYBE from this issue but in droves? nah

#5198716

TheDeeGee

2015-11-30 10:57

Wouldn't a Videocard with proper BIOS Setup throttle down when getting too hot?

The majority of people who play games on the PC are far removed from the enthusiasts you find on this forum. They just start up games and play them, they don't do anything even remotely technical, at most they'll update their drivers on a regular basis. Spend five minutes checking random game forums on Steam, you'll see exactly what I mean. I'd actually wager that most don't even know how to monitor temperatures.

So basicly you're saying AMD has their hands clean? You either must be a HUUUUGE Fanboy or... well i'm not gonna insult any further.

#5198717

fantaskarsef

2015-11-30 10:58

I like this thread,so many Nvidia users at Amd's funeral.Spread the line boys,spread the line. :wanker:

Now, now.. remember the reaction over the amd vs nvidia dx12 Asynchronous compute benchmark results?

Right now?No,i dont.Sorry. 🙂

we are not at amd's Funeral we our just visiting them at the hospital again. before anyone says it yes I am on my 3.5g card atm. maybe a card could die MAYBE from this issue but in droves? nah

VRAM gate, dx12 or asynchronous shader / scheduler, a lot of topics where people get very emotional and tend to slightly forget about facts (or what happened or was discussed just a month ago, see above). I still say it's good they have a fix 'just around the corner', even though I believe the issue to not be that much of a problem.

#5198760

cowie

2015-11-30 12:19

I figured I would get it in before anyone else would to add I would like to be first and say I am on a image quality reducing driver that turns off my fans on my 3.5g of ram card sold as 4g playing a gameworks title ....did I miss anything? oh it sucks at asynchronous shader ok I did it. now amd fix this driver today so you can step 1 foot out of your grave have a great day all

#5198766

MBTP

2015-11-30 12:27

Thats a real problem that have t be adressed, but cards failing because of ths, is very difficult to believe, seems more like bad user or users trying to get something for free.

#5198767

fantaskarsef

2015-11-30 12:31

While I don't dispute others playing a role in those retarded troll threads, cowie had nothing to do with that. Seems some people do not have a thick skin while bashing nvidia in those threads. Some is highlighted.

Just as a question, did you get the impression I was trying to bash cowie? :3eyes:

#5198798

fantaskarsef

2015-11-30 13:25

I've just logged a concern this morning. In my case, the heat from the secondary GPU (Crossfire) helped to push the primary GPU over the edge. Its dead and I'm reduced to one R9 280x... I had a gut feeling about the Crimson drivers and crossfire, like every revision of AMD drivers :P Lets see what happens

If I may ask, what were your temps before the driver?

#5198829

southamptonfc

2015-11-30 14:36

AMD sucks Now, where have I heard something like this before??? http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=316831