you mean for texture+resolution+msaa settings but it sounded like dx11 is fine for him so... there is always the chance that mantle (or bf4's version) isnt fully done for an older & less powerful card like a 7870 compared to 290, 280

mantle consumes around 500mb more vram then dx11 (on the same settings) and this is just to much for 2gb (even with high settings and not ultra). try to reduce the settings so much that your vram doesnt go ahead of 2gb, and you will see that there are no more fps drops with mantle.

mantles job is not to give you better graphics, its job is it to brake cpu limits. 2gb vram is to less, and this will never change. get a gpu with 3gb (or even more), or forget about mantle. you can read about this 2gb problem here http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battlefield-4-PC-238749/Specials/Dragons-Teeth-Benchmarks-welche-Grafikkarte-1128858/ google translated: "Annoying it is for AMD owners who have only a 2-gigabyte model. The memory difficulties among Mantle still not a thing of the past. And while also Geforce cards with 2-gigabyte Complement with Ultra-Details and four times multisampling now and then have to suffer minimal Speicherschluckauf, runs mercilessly fully in the AMD counterparts of the memory under Mantle. The Nvidia GPUs recover quickly again, the tiny drops hit at most minimal in the benchmarks down. But with the Radeon cards is after little more than 30 seconds curfew: If the memory is full, bring down the frame rates in the basement and stay there for the rest of the benchmark sequence - clearly visible to the miserable minimum frame rate of R9 270X and R7 260X under Mantle. The min fps are even saved by the first, still halfway liquid Run something away. Anyone who owns a 2-gigabyte model, should therefore continue to rely on DirectX. And who flirts with the new acquisition of a Radeon GPU and Mantle top, should definitely take the memory configuration in the eye, to our knowledge. The memory usage fell in all our previous Mantle benchmarks higher than under Direct X and the trend of the last time and the significantly better storage facilities of current consoles suggests at least that the built-in graphics card RAM in the future will be no less important."

just tested this driver BF4 + mantle still have huge fps drops. Flatout 2 still have so called DX9 corruptions. everything else is fine, this is WHQL driver.

That's BF4 july 8 patch that broke it, it's fixed on CTE though 🙂 It broke Mantle crossfire in the July 8 patch in the vanila BF4 game, If I run one 290x it runs perfect, on CTE I can run crossfire like before!

That's BF4 july 8 patch that broke it, it's fixed on CTE though 🙂 It broke Mantle crossfire in the July 8 patch in the vanila BF4 game, If I run one 290x it runs perfect, on CTE I can run crossfire like before!

he is not using crossfire, and bf4 with latest patch running just fine on my 7950 with mantle.

Funny thing these are not on the AMD's website yet. I'll give them a try and post my impressions!

Only 14.8s i could find on there were these. http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/embedded?os=Windows+7+-+32

Only 14.8s i could find on there were these. http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/embedded?os=Windows+7+-+32

This is the only AMD page I can find for 14.8. Last Updates: 8/29/2014 Article Number: RN-WINLIN-14.201.1008 AMD Catalyst™ Software for AMD Desktop APUs http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/desktop-apu-catalyst-software.aspx Maybe AMD is waiting for after the long weekend in the States before they release 14.8 for desktop graphic cards? FYI: I just checked the download files from the AMD URL with the download files from GURU3D and found that the files are identical.

i can set target temp of 95C in 13.xx drivers but in any of 14.xx drivers slider on target temp is limited to 85C max, now in 14xx drivers gpu reaches 85C and drops clock to stay at 85C so it slows down where as in 13xx it doesnt drop clocks because 95C target temp is set in overdrive. i use DDU as standard removal tool

Isn't 95c a bit too high for a gpu? I wonder if this isn't intentional from AMD.

That's BF4 july 8 patch that broke it, it's fixed on CTE though 🙂 It broke Mantle crossfire in the July 8 patch in the vanila BF4 game, If I run one 290x it runs perfect, on CTE I can run crossfire like before!

With a CF of 7970 using Mantle in BF4 give me in 5/10 min an error : not enough memory and game lookup returning to windows. PC have 8 Gb of RAM. Is this fixe in CTE ? 😕

This is the only AMD page I can find for 14.8. Last Updates: 8/29/2014 Article Number: RN-WINLIN-14.201.1008 AMD Catalyst™ Software for AMD Desktop APUs http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/desktop-apu-catalyst-software.aspx Maybe AMD is waiting for after the long weekend in the States before they release 14.8 for desktop graphic cards?

Id have thought there would have been a release this week, as the 285s are released, so they may put up a newer driver for those, than the one supplied on the disc, and/or a WHQL.

I tested the driver yesterday, I thought it was working great until I had an error said something with DirectX and the latest driver not working properly with my R9 290X cards. So I uninstalled it using DDU and now back to 14.4 which works great with my 4K display.

he is not using crossfire, and bf4 with latest patch running just fine on my 7950 with mantle.

So is mine with one 290x, it's the crossfire that they broke, apparently SLI is having issues as well. In the last patch they messed with mantle multi GPU settings. Below is a snippet from the July 8 patch notes. -Fix for an issue where Mantle users would receive a low frame rate when running the default Mantle multi-GPU settings It has been fixed in the CTE version and will be fixed this month in the big BF4 patch, then I can finally go back to using crossfire in the retail game.

yeah, i understand that now mantle is limited by my videoRAM, but AMD positioning Mantle as API that is much better than DX11

I recommend to stick with DX11, to get all the benefits of Mantle you need a GCN 2.0 card. The 290x was designed just for Mantle, it had a brand new Architecture. Your card is optimised and will always run better on DX11, it was designed to run on that like the 280x and 7970 as it isn't GCN 2.0. Your card has a few years DX11 optimisation as well. I upgraded from the 2x 280x to 2x 290x's so I could take full advantage of Mantle and play BF4 at 135% resolution and easily get 120fps running 1080p Ultra at 120Hz, basically rendering 1440p details on a 1080p screen making the it just pop with detail averaging 135 -160 fps. I can run 150% resolution easily too but it gets to sharp and I loose the depth of field (far items are no longer slightly out of focus) therefore I keep it at 135% as it perfect for picking out enemies and looks amazing.

It is not a driver problem, it is a hardware limitation problem.

Yes in my opinion the limiting hardware is not being GCN 2.0. Below was copied from a external article. "Though there are some differences between GCN 1.0 and 2.0 — mostly relating to management of memory and HSA" Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/whats-deal-amds-mantle/58209.html#ixzz3C5ikuoQ4

So far so good. No problems and seems pretty stable. Best of all, Firestrike performance went from 11855 to 12104. Not too shabby eh? :P

My went down from 3816 to 3732 (exteme preset).

Im quite surprised that non of the major tech sites have done any articles covering the slide to complete slackness in AMD's driver support (i blame AMD's involvement in the M$/Sony Console war) With all the reports of increased heat,dx9 corruption,BSOD & Wake issues i see across all the major forums i though atleast one of them would have done some tests to check and issue a report,afterall we know we can't rely on AMD to notice these things evn if the get 100's of reports on it Untill framepacing was brought up in those kind of tests AMD wasn't even looking for it and didn't even see it in there own testing,although it was blatantly obvious to most gamers they had a major micro stutter issues. Btw have they ever fixed the DX9 framepacing in eyefinity and 4K under CS ? or was the "support coming in a future driver update" another lie.

Rest assured that if they were all having these issues, they would report them. These problems affect only some users, and even those affected are being able to solve them with BIOS and driver updates... I was having serious stability issues and with a single vga BIOS update, all gone! 🙂 PS: I also started using only official (WHQL) drivers and it made a HUGE difference in stability and reliability.

I am doing something about it, I'm probably going to buy Nvidia next round Lets face facts, AMD has gotten really, and I mean really fricking lazy these last 9+ months on the drivers front, but the last 4+ months have been just inexcusable problems they flat out won't fix like the DX9 issues This should have been fixed one week one of being reported, yet here we are 4+ months later and this driver was just WHQL'd cause screw the consumer But yeah, unless Nvidia's next card is a stinker I'm switching, this last about a year has been an absolute joke from AMD for driver support

If you're switching then why bother posting here? Ever heard the story of the man who doesn't go to Bed Bath & Beyond? He doesn't like Bed Bath & Beyond, doesn't go to it and doesn't mind that you or me like it and go to it. It should be the same situation here. If you like AMD, go with AMD, there's nothing wrong with that. If you go Nvidia, no one should have a problem with that either. The problem here is that you're complaining for no reason. I'm switching to Nvidia because the 750 Ti is a much greater upgrade to my Radeon R7 250. You see the difference between you and me is that you're taking all of this too personally and being all negative about it, when you shouldn't even bother posting to begin with.

None of them have done DX9 tests with the drivers, its always for stuff like Watch dogs etc, DX11 games

All DirectX9 games I play (Half Life2, Mass Effect series, Skyrim, Oblivion, etc) run flawlessly. I don't know about this problem you guys have. Maybe you're overclocking too hard or something?

The one driver problem I continuously had for years when on a 8800GTS SSC edition card and continued on a GTX 460 card was display driver stopped and has recovered crashes.. while doing nothing more than using a web browser. While I understand people getting frustrated with driver problems, both brands have separate issues of various sorts relating to different aspects of the video card... If you are having a hard time with one brand, by all means try the other, no one is stopping you from doing so. ----- And a question.. of sorts.. These 14.8 WHQL's are still not up on the AMD website, it is still showing 14.4's Is there a reason for this?

Theoretically, they are APU drivers.

mmmm... Interesting..