AMD ATIFlash - Comments (Page 2)

Maddness

2017-04-20 08:19

Why worry? what could happen ?

It would probably be fine with an AIB card with the 8 pin PCI-e. But remember the reference 480's that only came with 6 pin PCI-e. AMD had to reconfigure the drivers because there was a chance it could draw to much voltage from the motherboard socket and damage the board. The 580 draws more power than the 480 as it is clocked higher, so this could potentially make it even more of an issue.

#5422540

Hilbert Hagedoorn

Administrator

2017-04-20 09:07

It would probably be fine with an AIB card with the 8 pin PCI-e. But remember the reference 480's that only came with 6 pin PCI-e. AMD had to reconfigure the drivers because there was a chance it could draw to much voltage from the motherboard socket and damage the board. The 580 draws more power than the 480 as it is clocked higher, so this could potentially make it even more of an issue.

That did not effect custom boards from AIB partners. Just the early reference models.

#5422544

0blivious

2017-04-20 09:19

AMeDeus Rebrandus Maximus wants his RX 5x0 card back. Same ol', same ol', move along, nothing to see here...

AMD should send out 5 series stickers to anyone who bought a 4 series. So, you have an RX470? [Peel] ... [Hold it straight] ... [Stick...Rub] Presto-chango... Done! You've got an RX570 now!

#5422546

Maddness

2017-04-20 09:24

That did not effect custom boards from AIB partners. Just the early reference models.

Yes, that is very true. I just put that out there as there is bound to be someone with a reference board that tries this and could potentially kill the motherboard.

#5422550

gianluca

2017-04-20 09:32

It would probably be fine with an AIB card with the 8 pin PCI-e. But remember the reference 480's that only came with 6 pin PCI-e. AMD had to reconfigure the drivers because there was a chance it could draw to much voltage from the motherboard socket and damage the board. The 580 draws more power than the 480 as it is clocked higher, so this could potentially make it even more of an issue.

I thought this power draw thing was a problem only for the people with cheap motherboards. And the fact that AMD fixed this with drivers means that was mainly a software problem, fixed already for the 480 and not present in the 580. So I guess flashing the bios won't bring back the old software configuration of the reference 480. As for the 6 pin power connector, as far as I know this can deliver more than 150W (up to 200), not the 75W some say, and PCI-E 3.0 is designed to deliver more power than the PCI-E 2.0. In other words the 6 pin connector shouldn't limit the overclocking capability of the card when using a motherboad with PCI-E 3.0 slot and the power draw for this card shouldn't be a problem eventually, because it could handle it without damage. Now, I'm far from expert on this regard, I know only what I read, so I can be wrong, but I kinda trust Roman 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq47qmwcus8

#5422558

CPC_RedDawn

2017-04-20 10:03

Anyone not worried that the RX480 has only 1 PCIE Connector (apart from certain vendor models) and the RX580 has 2 PCIE Connectors!?? I can see people bricking their cards this way, unless you edited the BIOS files to lower the clock speeds... then what is the point really they are both identical cards anyway?

#5422563

fantaskarsef

2017-04-20 10:18

Great to see this, since there's little actual hardware changes, this is quite nice to allow people to do.

Nice that this works on the AMD cards. I'd love it if I could flash my Titan X (Pascal) to the new Titan Xp, too. But I guess that won't work with Nvidia. 🙁

This won't work just like with AMD card that don't have the same chip on them... "up-flashing" only works if your chip has all the same cores. (See the example between 270X and 370X for instance, above.)

#5422603

edilsonj

2017-04-20 12:01

Anyone not worried that the RX480 has only 1 PCIE Connector (apart from certain vendor models) and the RX580 has 2 PCIE Connectors!?? I can see people bricking their cards this way, unless you edited the BIOS files to lower the clock speeds... then what is the point really they are both identical cards anyway?

Only reference cards has one.

#5422615

FookDat

2017-04-20 12:46

I just flashed my XFX RX480 XXX 8GB version with the sapphire limited edition bios... had to use atiwinflash -p 0 -f bios.rom installed drivers now runs 1411/2000 and says RX580 woot :banana: EDIT: Battlefield 1 keeps crashing with a directx error... i have tried bumping volts and clean driver installs.... I am going to try downclocking now to see if it stables out

#5422644

siriq

2017-04-20 13:39

I just flashed my XFX RX480 XXX 8GB version with the sapphire limited edition bios... had to use atiwinflash -p 0 -f bios.rom installed drivers now runs 1411/2000 and says RX580 woot :banana: EDIT: Battlefield 1 keeps crashing with a directx error... i have tried bumping volts and clean driver installs.... I am going to try downclocking now to see if it stables out

Did you try the powerlimit? How much extra volt did you add?

#5422725

bucknuts21

2017-04-20 16:14

Anyone not worried that the RX480 has only 1 PCIE Connector (apart from certain vendor models) and the RX580 has 2 PCIE Connectors!?? I can see people bricking their cards this way, unless you edited the BIOS files to lower the clock speeds... then what is the point really they are both identical cards anyway?

Off hand only MSI has some models with duel PCIE, maybe more but haven't looked it up. My NITRO+ 480 8G OC only has one and that's the first thing I thought off. I'll just wait for a few to see more reviews and threads before I do it.

#5422772

FookDat

2017-04-20 17:43

Did you try the powerlimit? How much extra volt did you add?

so if I just downclock to 1390 it runs fine... going to try and bump to +6 voltage and +5 power limit see if it holds at 1400

#5422839

gianluca

2017-04-20 20:53

so if I just downclock to 1390 it runs fine... going to try and bump to +6 voltage and +5 power limit see if it holds at 1400

Out of curiosity, do you have the XFX XXX with the blower style fan (like the reference card) or the one with the custom fans? If you flashed the Sapphire bios, this comes probably with a custom fan profile tailored on the Sapphire cooler. That is also a thing to consider and look at when using different cards bios.

#5422890

FookDat

2017-04-21 00:02

Out of curiosity, do you have the XFX XXX with the blower style fan (like the reference card) or the one with the custom fans? If you flashed the Sapphire bios, this comes probably with a custom fan profile tailored on the Sapphire cooler. That is also a thing to consider and look at when using different cards bios.

Mine comes with the dual fan and passive fans. I just set mine to 100% all the time. I game so loud I do not care about fans... Can not get stable at 1400 no matter how much voltage or power limit is thrown at it. I am sticking with 1390 which is up from my last highest of 1340. so its better in the long run at moment. if I notice to many issues I will just switch to other bios and switch when different drivers come out for testing

#5422914

siriq

2017-04-21 01:17

Well few ppl reported around 50 MHz or even more OC with the new 580 bios top of the highest OC they had before. Also you could try the 1450 bios but nothing will be guaranteed.

#5422925

scatman839

2017-04-21 01:56

Not totally sure I see the worth in risking a flash when you can just auto load an overclock if the cards are the same. Flashes in the past that unlock more cores n stuff sure, but just a higher clock, err.

#5422952

FookDat

2017-04-21 05:13

Still getting a DirectX error, but it could just be the RX580 drivers. I had same issue with 480 when it came out. so I bet better drivers will help and maybe using the xfx 580 bios instead of sapphire.

#5423058

Reqruiz

2017-04-21 13:41

I'm going to try flash my XFX RX480 but I'll wait for XFX RX580 bios, not trying Sapphire or other brand. I'm really curious how it gonna works, I'm getting 1400Mhz with no problem at all so I think it's possible to reach stable RX580 clocks. Wish me luck 🤓

#5423082

Valken

2017-04-21 15:21

Still getting a DirectX error, but it could just be the RX580 drivers. I had same issue with 480 when it came out. so I bet better drivers will help and maybe using the xfx 580 bios instead of sapphire.

One thing to do is after flashing your video card is to remove all drivers with DDU and then reinstall it fresh. You may want to also reset your bios in cases of any weird settings or detections then reinstall drivers. I did not need to do it when I flashed my 6950s to 6970s and it worked for nearly 6 years with no issues (other than heat and loud fans). I love AMD with all those "freebie" performances. 😀 Still waiting on Vega.

#5423088

oli3

2017-04-21 15:28

My personal experience of flashing graphics cars is a bad one. Tried flashing an AMD one about 8 years ago and bricked it so have steered away since.