9th Generation Intel Processors Will Get Octa Core i7
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kruno
I think Intel fans and buyers are soooo happy to get yet another chipset;);):D:D
Fender178
Not surprised at this considering AMD has 8 core CPUs right now with Ryzen and Intel has had them with their X series motherboards. The only down fall is needing to purchase another motherboard for the new chipset
-Tj-
I'll wait for Icelake 8core
drac
Slightly disappointing seeing as I just got a 8700k. 8 core won't make a fart of difference over 6 core probably for literally several years (in gaming), until 6 and 8 core has gone mainstream. In which case I'll then be ready to update again to a 12 core, lol.
You could be waiting forever to upgrade when it comes to PC tech, absolutely pointless waiting for anything unless it is a matter of weeks away.
Will be very interesting to see what happens though! I bet the 9700k at high clock speed will for sure have even more heat problems than the 8700k. It will be "cool" to see what turbo frequency they'l go for, thermal issues incoming. ;p
Kaarme
AMD really kicked Intel where it hurts the most. Figuratively speaking, of course, as the real place would be the profits, but those remain astronomical for Intel. Still, I'm kind of surprised Intel did have any pride left. I'd have imagined the money mongers leading Intel had got rid of all that pesky stuff.
Elder III
I think that the Ryzen 1600 for ~$200 (or less) has already made 6 core CPUs "Mainstream". I do agree with you that 6 vs 8 cores for gaming isn't much of a difference in the vast majority of games at this point, provided the core frequency is the same of course.
drac
Yep, well they sped up the process at least. I just mean mainstream, as in they're as common as quad cores and most people own one (a 6 or 8 core).
Prince Valiant
I think I'm likely to do the same. Going to see how Zen 2 pans out before making a final decision though.
boe
Only thing I care about is the number of PCIe lanes. I'm hoping it isn't limited to 16 like the current 8700k. I don't care about additional cores - just more PCIe lanes as I'm using my PC ot play games, not to encode video or decode the NSA security. There was a rumor of a new 40 PCIe lane Coffe Lake S CPU.
boe
It does if you care about gaming performance. If you are just using your PC for video editing then Ryzen/TR kicks but when it comes to bang for the buck. That being said I really appreciate that AMD gives you 64 PCIe lanes on the threadripper. If they can get the clock speeds up enough and tweak the TR2 it might be a good choice for a gaming PC although the power/heating is currently a drawback for some consumers.
kruno
You need more, for m.2 ,maybe some PCIE card, i don't think that in 2017/2018 16 PCIE lanes is enough.I like amd's 32 PCIE lanes on Ryzen,but would like it more if they didn't lock 8 lanes to sata and usb 3.1 ports.
boe
If you only play games, don't own any other PCIe cards and don't get anything faster than a 1080 (not the 1080 ti) and never intend on upgrading your video card, then 16x lanes is fine.
The 1080 ti does saturate 8x pcie - several videos on youtube and some other websites showing it. Not a tremendous difference but about 10% improvement using a 16x over an 8x slot depending on the game. If the 1080 ti already goes beyond 8x bandwidth then you can be sure the 2080 will need more. I also have an 8x nic and an 8x raid controller so I could use a lot more than 16x to share between them.
I believe the threadripper has 64 pcie lanes however it doesn't perform as well for gaming as my old 6700k intel.
kruno
You are forgetting SATA ports and USB that is also directly connected to CPU.Each Ryzen die has 32PCIE lanes,so Ryzen 1die=32,threadripper 2die's=64, epyc 4dies=128.What is confusing you and why i said that i liked that AMD didn't lock 8lanes is the fact that AMD has taken 8lanes from Ryzen 3,5,7 Cpu's and assign them to sata and usb ports fixed ,so mobo manufactures can't assign that 8lanes to anything else they are locked to sata and usb ports.They can only expose them in motherboards according to chipset, x370 exposes all ,b350 some less and a320 least.
boe
While I can't provide proof that it is a bandwidth saturation issue, there is a performance degradation when going from 16x to 8x. I don't really care if it is because the card can't draw enough power, bandwidth or is just feeling melancholy due to the 8x. The only thing that matters to me is that there is a performance degradation. I've seen huge variances as I've seen a number of videos but her is just a sample video -
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kruno
I am talking about AMD , that picture is correct for Intel but AMD has it like i describe ,sata is connected directly to cpu not chipset
https://cdn1-techbang.pixfs.net/system/images/386561/original/95591d0c46dc785c56e2604f420ab508.png?1489487512
https://img.purch.com/w/755/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS9GL1IvNjU2MzQzL29yaWdpbmFsL2FtNF9ibG9jay5wbmc=
Aura89
https://img.memecdn.com/everytime-i-arrive-late-to-the-party_o_3069011.jpg
kruno
Son, look at the left side second row from top ,it says 2xsata and on the right side it says usb 3.1, where my source contradicts my statement, you think because there is some sata and usb ports coming from chipset that that invalidates my statement that usb and sata is directly connected to cpu?
Neo Cyrus
That doesn't seem sustainable. CPUs have long been at a level where they're powerful enough to be far away from being the system bottleneck, especially in games. Who's going to bother buy new a CPU when their old one has so much headroom while the GPU is shitting itself in semi-modern games? Most people don't have GTX x70s/x80s/Tis, and even those are the bottlenecks in games anyway if paired with any CPU that's not ancient.
I've been wanting upgrade my GPU for a long time now, my CPU however, I wouldn't be surprised if I keep using my 4770K for another two years.
Aura89
Find a motherboard that 100%, for certain, does what you're talking about maybe?
And i'm talking about the SATA portion.
And i do mean for CERTAIN.
99% of motherboards are going to use that SATA portion for 1 x4 NVMe drive.
And the ones that don't, will likely not even use that portion of the SATA, since the chipset itself can provide enough SATA ports.
As well your statement: "so mobo manufactures can't assign that 8lanes to anything else they are locked to sata and usb ports." Doesn't make sense. For USB, sure, but not for SATA.
They can assign it all to 1 x4 NVMe drive
or
They can assign it to 2 SATA + 1 x2 NVME drive
Or
They can assign it to 2 SATA + 2x PCI-Express lanes.
That is most definitely not the definition of "locked"
kruno
Sorry my bad about sata ports i completely forgot that they can be configured for something else beside sata, simply i put them with usb because they come from cpu and i totally forgot that that lanes can be used for something else.
And the second thing about motherboard that supports sata ports from CPU there is bunch of them really bunch , but of top of my head here is one as you requested : ASUS TUF B350M-PLUS GAMING
link : https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-B350M-PLUS-GAMING/specifications/
Look under storage section
